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I take it you're not familiar with youtube-dl?
That’s not live playback, and I think it’s a scraper rather than using the API.
Newpipe does not use Youtube APIs.
NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client
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Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client
#72There are some more options available if it happens that you don't like Newpipe: https://www.layluh.com/ https://freetubeapp.io/ http://omega.gg/MotionBox/ http://www.viewpure.com https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/df-tube-distractio... https://toogl.es
I don't think ViewPure counts as a YouTube client. It just embeds a YouTube video, which is enough to strip away the YouTube clutter, but it's not reimplementing the YouTube player's JavaScript code the way invidio.us does, for instance.
I could be mistaken but I don't think YouTube officially permits third-party clients of any sort. Perhaps that's a good litmus test.
Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client
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Most likely. I understand the appeal of these types of applications but it really just comes off as entitled IMO. Just watch the ads to support the content creators you care about - it isn’t that hard. I imagine this will be an unpopular opinion here though.
It's certainly not a popular opinion, but it's definitely an uninformed opinion. The aim of NewPipe is not to "stick it to the man" or even to advertisers, it's to create a superior viewing experience that removes much of the bloat of Youtube's official app, and also being light on system resources. Whereas the official app used to crash and warm up my Moto G5 Plus, NewPipe has been running like a dream for years.
Well yeah but it also removes ads... which are how content creators and the people who build and maintain the platform infrastructure make a living.
Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client
#74Watching youtube videos using Google's bandwidth, without watching any ads or paying for sub, I don't see how this could be legit in the long term.
I wonder why this is being downvoted - Google asks for subscription for features that this app hacks for free. In any other context this would be deemed unethical (or even piracy). E.g. think of an application that streams Apple Music without paying Apple or distributors of cracked apps with enabled in-app purchase features. And yet the HN community happily endorses such apps when it comes to Google. I also wonder wh…
I don't think it is that simple. When it comes to not playing the ads, I agree that is a problem. When it comes to the features, I think it is different.
One of the features is background playback of audio from videos. On the desktop, that's a feature that exists thanks to your window manager. Is that unethical?
It isn't stealing to use another method to get a feature someone is selling you, any more than using a third party DVR is stealing from a company offering you one as part of a more expensive package.
They have implemented the feature independently, and are providing it as a way of doing the same thing as something YouTube is selling you, I don't see that as a problem.
(NewPipe also has features that YouTube's app just doesn't support at all, like higher speed playback than 2x).
Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client
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That's why I'm on YouTube Premium. I definitely watch enough youtube to get $10 out of it.
I'm happy to support content creators with patreon when they offer a way to do so. _Especially_ when they offer a way to see their videos off YouTube. I'd never pay a dime for YT itself due to their policies and overall platform. I mostly use YouTube to discover niche content, but only because I've been running an ad-blocker since forever. I cannot fathom how anyone could enjoy it in any other way currently. When I s…
> I'd never pay a dime for YT itself due to their policies and overall platform.
You're supporting them just by using them, whether they are showing you ads or tracking you or not. You're reducing demand on other platforms for this content because you're letting YouTube provide it for you. If you really want to stand against YouTube, don't use it. Otherwise, you're still supporting their platform, you've just decided to do so in a way that saves you time, money and convenience at the expense of YouTube and the content creators on YouTube.
If you're going to do it, you might as well own it.
Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client
#76Isn't it against Google's terms and conditions to run such an app that plays YouTube videos without playing the ads too? I remember reading about that.
Most likely. I understand the appeal of these types of applications but it really just comes off as entitled IMO. Just watch the ads to support the content creators you care about - it isn’t that hard. I imagine this will be an unpopular opinion here though.
> I imagine this will be an unpopular opinion here though.
I don't like it one bit -> down vote
Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client
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Most likely. I understand the appeal of these types of applications but it really just comes off as entitled IMO. Just watch the ads to support the content creators you care about - it isn’t that hard. I imagine this will be an unpopular opinion here though.
If I could guarantee the ad revenue went to the creator and not a company hitting the creator with bullshit strikes, sure!
You mean the company paying for the storage, conversion, bandwidth, global availability and upkeep?
I mean, the creator should have its share, but it's not like YouTube does nothing.
Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client
#78Watching youtube videos using Google's bandwidth, without watching any ads or paying for sub, I don't see how this could be legit in the long term.
I wonder why this is being downvoted - Google asks for subscription for features that this app hacks for free. In any other context this would be deemed unethical (or even piracy). E.g. think of an application that streams Apple Music without paying Apple or distributors of cracked apps with enabled in-app purchase features. And yet the HN community happily endorses such apps when it comes to Google. I also wonder wh…
That's not piracy. Youtube is sending you packets, out of their own choice. It's my own right to save those packets(without re-distributing) them and watch them in any form I like.
Playing in the background is not a "feature", it's a basic device capability, the fact that YouTube went out of their way to prevent it does not make it right, imagine if the browser client had stopped playing when you went out of focus - that'd be completely unacceptable. The fact that somehow this is accepted on smartphones probably says more about consumers lack of technological competence and awareness (and maybe historical reasons, as earlier versions of Android/iOS didn't have proper multi-tasking)
Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client
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I wonder why this is being downvoted - Google asks for subscription for features that this app hacks for free. In any other context this would be deemed unethical (or even piracy). E.g. think of an application that streams Apple Music without paying Apple or distributors of cracked apps with enabled in-app purchase features. And yet the HN community happily endorses such apps when it comes to Google. I also wonder wh…
Piracy isn't unethical.
The difference here is that you’re not downloading a copy of a video from one private user to another. You’re downloading the video from Google, using Google’s bandwidth and their servers.
Re: NewPipe – ad-free, open-source Android YouTube client
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I think most people get enough benefit out of YouTube to warrant the fee. But advertisements allow the platform to be available to anyone with an internet connection. Fair trade off I’d say.
Except for all the entitled people in this very topic who demand this service to work for free, refuse to pay for subscription and still don't want ads either.
I agree with your statement but there are other sides too.
Regarding ads: Showing ads like "Girl Mobile Video Talk" with description "Girl Mobile Number Live Video Call" with "Install Link" in a youtube ads is unacceptable. And the worst thing is you cannot even turn off that ads without being turning on ads personalization.
Regarding Money: 10$ may be a cup of coffee for you but in other side of world people are earning 200$ of salary so they just can't afford it. So many people don't have privilege like average Americans have?
Regarding supporting creators. Sure ads pay creator but showing ads every 10minute , beginning of video and end of video is total BS. And even creator are already using their own ads like "This video is sponsored by Brilliant.org" so I don't mind blocking ads.