Bloomberg chief editor: We publish too many mediocre and long enterprise stories • Hacker News Board

Re: Bloomberg chief editor: We publish too many mediocre and long enterprise stories

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Post by jgrahamc » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 4:57 PM UTC

MBCook wrote: post #13

Oh, are they finally apologizing (or providing proof for) their story The Big Hack about chips the size of a grain of rice China puts in computers made by Dell and Apple and others? No? Not a word about it? It’s almost like they’re continuing to pretend that their giant journalistic screwup doesn’t exist. Don’t care. ‘Are articles are too long’. How about yours articles are untrustworthy?

This is a good point. Ever since that mess, I've looked at every bloomberg.com link and not clicked on it. Why bother?

Re: Bloomberg chief editor: We publish too many mediocre and long enterprise stories

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Post by Simulacra » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 4:57 PM UTC

In my opinion, all of journalism has become too mediocre as it seeks clicks, not readers.

Re: Bloomberg chief editor: We publish too many mediocre and long enterprise stories

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Post by Simulacra » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 4:58 PM UTC

Youden wrote: post #65

greatgib wrote: post #36

The point of the chief editor is so true that I'm surprised to read that from them. I have noticed that a lot of times with this kind of web media. - You have a clickbait title like this: "How a normal guy managed to hack WallStreet with a simple pen" - Then, you have one page of interesting introduction on the topic but without the reply to the title question. "In november 2018, WallStreet was busy with the introduc…

In case someone wants an example of an actual published story that looks like this, here's one from the NY Times: https://www.wsj.com/articles/who-is-the-mystery-shopper-leav... 1100 words to answer the titular question, which really only needed a paragraph or two.

Reporters might miss the God complex that Journalism class gave them.

Re: Bloomberg chief editor: We publish too many mediocre and long enterprise stories

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Post by CrankyBear » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 4:59 PM UTC

Short, sweet, and to the point has always been Bloomberg's editorial policy. I'm surprised he had to underline it to the staffers this way.

Re: Bloomberg chief editor: We publish too many mediocre and long enterprise stories

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Post by whoisjuan » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 4:59 PM UTC

Like when they made up a story about China infiltrating servers of US companies with a nano chip that is not even technically feasible to produce and they simply ignore everyone when they were called out on their bs?

Re: Bloomberg chief editor: We publish too many mediocre and long enterprise stories

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Post by motohagiography » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 4:59 PM UTC

His comment about respecting and saving readers' time, that was one of the smartest things I've read about journalism. If it doesn't do that, it's not worth writing or reading.

Re: Bloomberg chief editor: We publish too many mediocre and long enterprise stories

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Post by whatgoodisaroad » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 5:00 PM UTC

MBCook wrote: post #13

Oh, are they finally apologizing (or providing proof for) their story The Big Hack about chips the size of a grain of rice China puts in computers made by Dell and Apple and others? No? Not a word about it? It’s almost like they’re continuing to pretend that their giant journalistic screwup doesn’t exist. Don’t care. ‘Are articles are too long’. How about yours articles are untrustworthy?

It is, indeed really hard to take micro-scale editorial corrections like this while they leave unresolved what is at BEST an eggregious lapse of editorial judgement.

Re: Bloomberg chief editor: We publish too many mediocre and long enterprise stories

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Post by JMTQp8lwXL » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 5:00 PM UTC

greatgib wrote: post #36

The point of the chief editor is so true that I'm surprised to read that from them. I have noticed that a lot of times with this kind of web media. - You have a clickbait title like this: "How a normal guy managed to hack WallStreet with a simple pen" - Then, you have one page of interesting introduction on the topic but without the reply to the title question. "In november 2018, WallStreet was busy with the introduc…

This is merely a consequence of SEO. Have you tried searching for recipes? It's absolutely miserable. I don't need irrelevant life stories-- show me the ingredient list and instructions.

Re: Bloomberg chief editor: We publish too many mediocre and long enterprise stories

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Post by alecco » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 5:01 PM UTC

greatgib wrote: post #36

The point of the chief editor is so true that I'm surprised to read that from them. I have noticed that a lot of times with this kind of web media. - You have a clickbait title like this: "How a normal guy managed to hack WallStreet with a simple pen" - Then, you have one page of interesting introduction on the topic but without the reply to the title question. "In november 2018, WallStreet was busy with the introduc…

https://www.reddit.com/r/savedyouaclick/

Re: Bloomberg chief editor: We publish too many mediocre and long enterprise stories

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Post by MR4D » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 5:02 PM UTC

Youden wrote: post #65

greatgib wrote: post #36

The point of the chief editor is so true that I'm surprised to read that from them. I have noticed that a lot of times with this kind of web media. - You have a clickbait title like this: "How a normal guy managed to hack WallStreet with a simple pen" - Then, you have one page of interesting introduction on the topic but without the reply to the title question. "In november 2018, WallStreet was busy with the introduc…

In case someone wants an example of an actual published story that looks like this, here's one from the NY Times: https://www.wsj.com/articles/who-is-the-mystery-shopper-leav... 1100 words to answer the titular question, which really only needed a paragraph or two.

Wall Street Journal, not the NY Times.

I read that article the other day - it was infuriating in it's poor signal to noise ratio.