Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system • Hacker News Board

Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

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Post by deelowe » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 2:39 PM UTC

irq11 wrote: post #17

deelowe wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a reason we get so concerned when there is evidence of CNS infection. It's not as simple as "loss of smell."

The reason you “get so concerned” is because you are spreading fear, and you systematically attempt to censor anyone who points out that your fear isn’t supported by evidence.

Does your statement change if I personally know several people who are ill and a few who have died? I have first hand experience. Do you? Yes, I am afraid, but that fear is backed by empirical evidence and my study of the science of this disease, not the media. You should be afraid as well.

Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

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Post by starkd » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 2:40 PM UTC

irq11 wrote: post #20

gumby wrote: post #13

People seem to have a naïve view of what “cured” means: someone “gets sick”, is treated, and then returns to the status quo ante . Thus there is little concern about catching the disease (or any disease) when you are not in an “at risk” group. But hospital discharge just means the treatment you get stops being worth the time/money. Ideally you finish convalescing at home. But any consequential damage isn’t ignored, a…

Did you see the parts of the article where they say that the most severe, “consequential damage” is predominantly found in the elderly and most severely ill? You’re implying that people who have mild cases (>99% of all cases; remember: over 40% cases are so mild that they’re considered “asymptomatic”, and for every one case we detect, 10-20 others never even bother to be tested! ) have some kind of neurological damag…

The headline was indeed more inflammatory than the facts of the article. It seems like the media wants people to panic.

Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

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Post by psychometry » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 2:41 PM UTC

gumby wrote: post #13

People seem to have a naïve view of what “cured” means: someone “gets sick”, is treated, and then returns to the status quo ante . Thus there is little concern about catching the disease (or any disease) when you are not in an “at risk” group. But hospital discharge just means the treatment you get stops being worth the time/money. Ideally you finish convalescing at home. But any consequential damage isn’t ignored, a…

Not to mention it'll be years or perhaps decades before we completely understand the lasting effects of infection. Many survivors might be looking at something like post-polio syndrome or worse.

And we know even less about the long-term epigenetic effects. What's the effect on childhood development? Fetal development in the case of infection during pregnancy? Who knows.

Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

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Post by beamatronic » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 2:44 PM UTC

starkd wrote: post #22

irq11 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you see the parts of the article where they say that the most severe, “consequential damage” is predominantly found in the elderly and most severely ill? You’re implying that people who have mild cases (>99% of all cases; remember: over 40% cases are so mild that they’re considered “asymptomatic”, and for every one case we detect, 10-20 others never even bother to be tested! ) have some kind of neurological damag…

The headline was indeed more inflammatory than the facts of the article. It seems like the media wants people to panic.

Maybe the media wants to inform people that they should wear a mask.

Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

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Post by gotoeleven » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 2:46 PM UTC

irq11 wrote: post #20

gumby wrote: post #13

People seem to have a naïve view of what “cured” means: someone “gets sick”, is treated, and then returns to the status quo ante . Thus there is little concern about catching the disease (or any disease) when you are not in an “at risk” group. But hospital discharge just means the treatment you get stops being worth the time/money. Ideally you finish convalescing at home. But any consequential damage isn’t ignored, a…

Did you see the parts of the article where they say that the most severe, “consequential damage” is predominantly found in the elderly and most severely ill? You’re implying that people who have mild cases (>99% of all cases; remember: over 40% cases are so mild that they’re considered “asymptomatic”, and for every one case we detect, 10-20 others never even bother to be tested! ) have some kind of neurological damag…

I don't know why people are downvoting you. The hacker news karen-signal has been activated I guess.

Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

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Post by krapp » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 2:46 PM UTC

starkd wrote: post #22

irq11 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you see the parts of the article where they say that the most severe, “consequential damage” is predominantly found in the elderly and most severely ill? You’re implying that people who have mild cases (>99% of all cases; remember: over 40% cases are so mild that they’re considered “asymptomatic”, and for every one case we detect, 10-20 others never even bother to be tested! ) have some kind of neurological damag…

The headline was indeed more inflammatory than the facts of the article. It seems like the media wants people to panic.

> The headline was indeed more inflammatory than the facts of the article. It seems like the media wants people to panic.

I wouldn't conflate a clickbait headline on a single article by a single website into a widespread conspiracy by "the media" to spread panic.

Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

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Post by mr_overalls » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 2:47 PM UTC

irq11 wrote: post #17

deelowe wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a reason we get so concerned when there is evidence of CNS infection. It's not as simple as "loss of smell."

The reason you “get so concerned” is because you are spreading fear, and you systematically attempt to censor anyone who points out that your fear isn’t supported by evidence.

". . . isn't supported by evidence."

This thread is _literally_ about the gold-standard scientific evidence (gathered by Spanish doctors) about how COVID is attacking the nervous system.

Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

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Post by ericb » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 2:50 PM UTC

starkd wrote: post #22

irq11 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you see the parts of the article where they say that the most severe, “consequential damage” is predominantly found in the elderly and most severely ill? You’re implying that people who have mild cases (>99% of all cases; remember: over 40% cases are so mild that they’re considered “asymptomatic”, and for every one case we detect, 10-20 others never even bother to be tested! ) have some kind of neurological damag…

The headline was indeed more inflammatory than the facts of the article. It seems like the media wants people to panic.

The phrase "If it bleeds it leads" was coined in 1989. Seems apt.

Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

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Post by HeroOfAges » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 2:51 PM UTC

deelowe wrote: post #21

irq11 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reason you “get so concerned” is because you are spreading fear, and you systematically attempt to censor anyone who points out that your fear isn’t supported by evidence.

Does your statement change if I personally know several people who are ill and a few who have died? I have first hand experience. Do you? Yes, I am afraid, but that fear is backed by empirical evidence and my study of the science of this disease, not the media. You should be afraid as well.

I personally only know of one person that has tested positive for Covid-19 and she recovered fully after about two weeks. Can you tell us more about the people you know that died due to Covid-19? General demographic info, like sex, age, that type of thing.

Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

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Post by pgo » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 3:02 PM UTC

My family got corona positive last month, around the same time my brother started having some neurological issues. The doctors after seeing the MRI did not detect any issues. The same was confirmed by other radiologists and multiple other MRI scans over the month. Yet he faces these issues: nausea,headache,confusion,weakness,ataxia (unsteady walk) sensory changes, including numbness or tingling,trouble with vision (one eye doesn't move / change focus as much as quickly as the other eye ). All these issues point to a brain infection yet none is detected.