What’s New in Thunderbird 78 • Hacker News Board

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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Post by swiley » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 10:12 AM UTC

kioleanu wrote: post #74

I've started using Thunderbird again after months of trying literally every other solution on the market. I wanted to switch from Outlook and Gmail to something that is fast, has good keyboard support and a good message editor. It's incredible how slow most of the email clients on the market are. What's even more incredible is that, apart from Outlook, none of the other clients offer a good way of editing tables prop…

Why are you sending emails with tables in them? If you really need that much formatting maybe you should link or attach your document.

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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Post by ronjouch » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 10:13 AM UTC

account42 wrote: post #102

Will this version let me compose text-only messages by default while still being able to switch to a HTML message when needed? You used to be able to shift-click reply to compose as text but that that stopped working in a previous update.

Shift-Click on Reply/Compose to switch from text to HTML (or HTML to text if HTML is your default) still works for me. If it doesn't for you, it's a bug.

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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Post by Krasnol » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 10:16 AM UTC

Oh this is fantastic.

Finaly Tray support. The only minor thing I need i "send later". It worked through an addon but that will require a subscription(?!) now... https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jik/rewritten-add-ons-f...

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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Post by qqj » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 10:16 AM UTC

Side note on emails in-general: talking to my younger colleagues it seems that email is going away. We all, me included, prefer to use chats like slack for work and recreation (see discord) and email is used mostly for registrations and getting spam. It’s an obsolete format.

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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Post by shock » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 10:19 AM UTC

qqj wrote: post #114

Side note on emails in-general: talking to my younger colleagues it seems that email is going away. We all, me included, prefer to use chats like slack for work and recreation (see discord) and email is used mostly for registrations and getting spam. It’s an obsolete format.

Makes me sad to read things like this. Slack and Discord are centralized, someone else owns your identity and you cannot do anything about it. With email (and Matrix) you have the chance to own your identity (by having your own domain).

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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Post by HPsquared » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 10:22 AM UTC

swiley wrote: post #111

kioleanu wrote: post #74

I've started using Thunderbird again after months of trying literally every other solution on the market. I wanted to switch from Outlook and Gmail to something that is fast, has good keyboard support and a good message editor. It's incredible how slow most of the email clients on the market are. What's even more incredible is that, apart from Outlook, none of the other clients offer a good way of editing tables prop…

Why are you sending emails with tables in them? If you really need that much formatting maybe you should link or attach your document.

It depends on the field you're in I suppose. I use tables all the time in email, they're a very organised and quick way of presentning infomation, wth the benefit of colour coding. Someone can respond to the table by adding a column with their own thoughts on each item, etc. - very good for formal approval/discussion on a list of points. Why should someone be forced to use a separate file for simple HTML formatting?

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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Post by shock » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 10:24 AM UTC

I'm a (mostly) happy user of TB, but I sorely miss a "conversations" feature.

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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Post by Silhouette » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 10:26 AM UTC

qqj wrote: post #114

Side note on emails in-general: talking to my younger colleagues it seems that email is going away. We all, me included, prefer to use chats like slack for work and recreation (see discord) and email is used mostly for registrations and getting spam. It’s an obsolete format.

Mail is the lingua franca of online communications. It isn't going anywhere any time soon, if only because it it's an independent standard that does not rely on some single commercial entity to continue operating it. That is also part of the reason why all those other services still fall back on email for their registration mechanisms.

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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Post by burntoutfire » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 10:28 AM UTC

loudtieblahblah wrote: post #8

firoze wrote: post #5

Would it be wise to link one's Protonmail account with Thunderbird?

It remains end to end encrypted due the fact you have to use ProtonMail's desktop bridge.

Which, at least for me, has never worked properly (I check after each update) and still leads to lags and timeouts in Thunderbird/Outlook. If they don't fix it till my protonmail's subscription expires, I guess I'm moving to another provider.

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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Post by Silhouette » Fri, Jul 17, 2020, 10:29 AM UTC

ronjouch wrote: post #112

account42 wrote: post #102

Will this version let me compose text-only messages by default while still being able to switch to a HTML message when needed? You used to be able to shift-click reply to compose as text but that that stopped working in a previous update.

Shift-Click on Reply/Compose to switch from text to HTML (or HTML to text if HTML is your default) still works for me. If it doesn't for you, it's a bug.

Though since they inexplicably removed the reply-to-all button from the easily accessed tools in a recent UI update, this can be more fiddly now than it needs to be...