I see that the Nostalgy author is working on an upgrade. Very nice!
What’s New in Thunderbird 78
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#102Will this version let me compose text-only messages by default while still being able to switch to a HTML message when needed? You used to be able to shift-click reply to compose as text but that that stopped working in a previous update.
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
In what way?
Each email in its own file means a minimum of x KB on disk for each email, where x is usually 4. For people with thousands of emails that's very wasteful.
I would take a safe Maildir implementation over subtle (or sometimes catastrophic) data loss bugs any day. The one really serious problem I have with Thunderbird is that after being stung more than once, I feel like not only do I have to keep normal backups, I also have to retain old backups indefinitely, just in case a folder was corrupted silently a long time ago and I only find out months or years later when I need to search older messages.
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have native apps for email on the various machines I own (between phones, tablets, laptops, and desktops that's at least 5). And, in a pinch, I can still use webmail. I'm not sure why "cloud" matters for email -- it's always been hosted on a server somewhere.
If you use POP for your mail client, your client downloads the mails from the server that then deletes them and you only have them on your computer (Unless you use Gmail that does some hybrid thing storing the old emails but marks them as read I believe)
POP3 doesn't automatically delete the emails it fetched (with RETR). It has to emit another specific command (DELE) for this purpose.
So, keeping or not keeping mails on the server is a matter of configuration in your client. I think all clients propose this choice and some will also add extra options like deleting only after a number of days since fetching.
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#105Many of these UI changes seem like backward steps. https://blog.thunderbird.net/files/2020/07/compose-compariso... Old: Clear that you can enter multiple "To" addresses. Obvious that the formatting buttons are buttons. New: Single-line "to" implies you can only enter one address. "Flat" buttons don't look like buttons. https://blog.thunderbird.net/files/2020/07/account-setup.png Extra white space makes the window nea…
Extra white space makes the window nearly twice the size for no apparent reason. The old window was twice as big as it needs to be too, but I agree the new one is even worse. I don't like the flat buttons either. I don't use macOS much, but the old ones with a subtle border look like they're native UI, whereas the new flat ones don't. A random image I found confirms that the old buttons and checkbox look the same as…
The point of the huge window is that you have multiple steps and the window is sized for the largest one so it doesn't resize between steps. I'm also unhappy about the extra space but the window being larger than its contents makes sense here.
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#106It also now supports Microsoft's modern authentication (i.e., their flavor of OAuth), which is now becoming annoyingly mandatory at more and more organizations.
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#108I really wish TB would store mails in Maildir by default and operate on that storage according to the standard so that the local mailstore becomes compatible with other mail clients. Right now one can manually switch the storage to maildir, but it is not safe to use that storage with other maildir compatible software.
Why not store all of the e-mails in a mailbox in an sqlite database and keep the folder hierarchy in a directory?
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#109I keep swinging between dislike and acceptance with Thunderbird. It feels old, clunky and cludgy. And not in a good way (the way Vim is old, but still marvellous, or mutt is cludgy but still Just Works Everywhere). The UI feels horribly out of place (on my vanilla Ubuntu), the UX is terribly inconsistent and after -I think- 10+ years of using it, I still have to search where to find stuff. Daily. I've been comparing…
There's a webmail out there called Rainloop. It's probably one of the best email interfaces I used. Sadly, it's not a desktop client.
My absolute top favorite email client was the old Opera (<=12) browsers built in email client.
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
The old To/Cc design was really bad. If you have more than three addresses, then these three lines scroll. The only indication that there are more than three addresses is a tiny scrollbar all the way to the right. I recently sent an e-mail to more people than intended when editing an old message as new, because it had more To-addresses that weren't visible and I didn't notice the scrollbar. I'm very happy that it's b…
Now it needs some visual indication of a complete e-mail address in the To: line. Like a rounded rectangle 1px border around a complete e-mail address and some kind of hint, that you can enter more than one address.
There is a visual indication of a complete email addresses: each correct/complete email address is wrapped in a "pill", a light gray one (see OP screenshot). An incomplete email will similarly get wrapped into a dark red pill.
Your comment maybe indicates the gray is too subtle, or invisible to users with bad eyesight.