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Pothead Ph.D. - This is most definitely not a cautionary tale

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Re: Pothead Ph.D. - This is most definitely not a cautionary tale

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Post by edw519 »

Oh you poor baby!

You have trouble reading and writing and 'rithmetic, so you need a little chemical help. You pussy.

Get out of cocoon, er I mean school, get a real job, get married. have a couple of kids, get a mortgage and a couple of car payments, raise those kids without worrying too much about the evils around them, visit Mom in her nursing home, do things for others in need, and, if you have time, have a nice life too. But don't drop a single egg while you're juggling. And don't you dare miss a day of work, no matter how mind numbingly boring or lame it is, or how sleepy or depressed you feel.

The only thing worse than the whining of a student is the whining of a pothead student. Grow up.

Re: Pothead Ph.D. - This is most definitely not a cautionary tale

#12

Post by LogicHoleFlaw »

Alex3917 wrote: post #7
josefresco wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about for alcoholics? If refraining from something completely is bad, should we all experience LSD/Cocaine/Heroine infrequently? I would think the real damage of teetotalism would be the stress involved in constantly thinking about and addressing it. Not so much the lack of the substance in the body.

"I would think the real damage of teetotalism would be the stress involved in constantly thinking about and addressing it." Then you would be wrong: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E05EED9143FF...

This article shows benefits from moderate drinking for individuals at high risk of heart disease, not the population at large:

For many people moderate drinking has absolutely no benefit at all, Dr. Klatsky said. This applies to all adolescents: teenagers have a negligible risk of heart disease and for them the risks of heavy drinking vastly outweigh any benefits of moderate drinking.

The same generally applies to men under 40 and women under 50, except for those with known heart disease risks. Pregnant women, people with liver disease, known drinking problems or a family history of alcoholism should never be advised to begin to drink for their health, he said.

But for others with known coronary heart disease or a risk of heart disease because of obesity, cholesterol levels, or smoking, moderate alcohol use may be a way to reduce that risk.

It is important to look at context when reading about these sorts of studies.

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Post by omouse »

josefresco wrote: post #2

Wow, an entire article about the benefits of pot and working and no mention from this "Ph.D" about the difference between Indica and Sativa marijuana. For those too lazy to Google it, Sativa (usually grown outdoors) is great for working (think euphoria, and optimism), Indica (usually indoor) is for relaxing at the end of the day and "zoning out". Think 'body high' Those FUD commercials you see with the kids deflated…

"Lesson for kids: Do your homework (this applies to your hobbies too)"

Isn't it amazing the kinds of things people will do without the slightest bit of research?

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Post by jraines »

edw519 wrote: post #11

Oh you poor baby! You have trouble reading and writing and 'rithmetic, so you need a little chemical help. You pussy. Get out of cocoon, er I mean school, get a real job, get married. have a couple of kids, get a mortgage and a couple of car payments, raise those kids without worrying too much about the evils around them, visit Mom in her nursing home, do things for others in need, and, if you have time, have a nice…

Get off my lawn!

Re: Pothead Ph.D. - This is most definitely not a cautionary tale

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Post by josefresco »

edw519 wrote: post #11

Oh you poor baby! You have trouble reading and writing and 'rithmetic, so you need a little chemical help. You pussy. Get out of cocoon, er I mean school, get a real job, get married. have a couple of kids, get a mortgage and a couple of car payments, raise those kids without worrying too much about the evils around them, visit Mom in her nursing home, do things for others in need, and, if you have time, have a nice…

I'm grown up, have kids, mortgages (3 in fact!) and car payments and this weed ignorant college kid didn't strike me as whiny. Just slightly ignorant as I pointed out above.

Let me guess edw519, you probably drink, both coffee and alcohol, you probably also consume your fair amount of sugar and possibly (although unlikely) smoke cigarettes. Why is it that smoking weed (to help you work/play) makes you winy and a pothead but it's ok to be a raging asshole if you miss your morning coffee/cig?

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Post by yummyfajitas »

petercooper wrote: post #10

Before anyone starts taking this guy seriously, consider the impact that drug use could have on your life in terms of the social effects rather than the drug itself. Being arrested for possession (or, worse, dealing) could invalidate you from easy worldwide travel (merely having been arrested - let alone charged - invalidates you from many visa waiver programs), numerous professions, and delay certain opportunities.…

It's not particularly difficult for a white/asian middle class person (most people here, I'm guessing) to avoid getting busted. It's not like the cops are out to get you.

Just don't take pot onto the subway or speed while it's in your car, and you should be fine.

Re: Pothead Ph.D. - This is most definitely not a cautionary tale

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Post by neilc »

edw519 wrote: post #11

Oh you poor baby! You have trouble reading and writing and 'rithmetic, so you need a little chemical help. You pussy. Get out of cocoon, er I mean school, get a real job, get married. have a couple of kids, get a mortgage and a couple of car payments, raise those kids without worrying too much about the evils around them, visit Mom in her nursing home, do things for others in need, and, if you have time, have a nice…

I don't see why the vehemence is warranted; I also don't think the author of the article is "whining". He's just talking about how and why he smokes pot, and how that connects with graduate school in the humanities. It is refreshing to hear something in the mainstream media about someone who smokes pot and isn't an intellectual vacuum. Which part of the article did you think was "whining"?

Your rant about graduate school versus a "real job" also seems like mostly a non sequitur.

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Post by mrtron »

edw519 wrote: post #11

Oh you poor baby! You have trouble reading and writing and 'rithmetic, so you need a little chemical help. You pussy. Get out of cocoon, er I mean school, get a real job, get married. have a couple of kids, get a mortgage and a couple of car payments, raise those kids without worrying too much about the evils around them, visit Mom in her nursing home, do things for others in need, and, if you have time, have a nice…

I am not a student (so, also not a pothead student). I do not agree that you need to have a real job+marriage+kids+mortgage+car payments+etc in order to have a 'real life'. Because if I did have all of those - I would be forced to do whatever bullshit job I had instead of trying my own path.

I do agree this article was a poorly conceived article though.

Re: Pothead Ph.D. - This is most definitely not a cautionary tale

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Post by cmos »

petercooper wrote: post #10

Before anyone starts taking this guy seriously, consider the impact that drug use could have on your life in terms of the social effects rather than the drug itself. Being arrested for possession (or, worse, dealing) could invalidate you from easy worldwide travel (merely having been arrested - let alone charged - invalidates you from many visa waiver programs), numerous professions, and delay certain opportunities.…

In the US the consequences will vary depending on what state you live in. In upstate NY, sitting in traffic court for an evening I learned that every single case for 'possession' (all small amounts - not 'intent to distribute') was given a $50 fine and nothing on their record.

What would the 20's have been if everyone was too scared to go to a speakeasy?

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