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Nikon Issues Small Recall for a 16-Year-Old Film Camera

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Re: Nikon Issues Small Recall for a 16-Year-Old Film Camera

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Post by sudosysgen »

supernova87a wrote: post #29
renewiltord wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this case, it's annoying because you'll have missed a semi-rapid and the next comparable train to Tsukuba will leave 9 minutes later and arrive 17 minutes later. It's not a 40 minute thing, this isn't Caltrain, but it's still annoying.

I loved (not really) how sometimes on Caltrain, if the trains were delayed, you could get on a delayed train after you had planned to travel, and get home sooner than if the trains had been running on time. (I'll let you think on that puzzle.)

That was my experience of French trains right before the strikes :)

Re: Nikon Issues Small Recall for a 16-Year-Old Film Camera

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Post by sudosysgen »

ars wrote: post #34
thetinguy wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The f6 is high end low volume product. They only make and sell a couple hundred a year.

Looks like it costs $2,549. Which doesn't really seem profitable in volumes that low.

It's quite mechanically and electronically simple, though, by modern standards.

Re: Nikon Issues Small Recall for a 16-Year-Old Film Camera

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Post by ekianjo »

supernova87a wrote: post #10

I love how the idea of Japanese conscientiousness has become almost a meme for how we wish companies were run. Other examples you've probably seen come across the webs: -- Hotel apologizes in advance for a brief 1 minute planned disruption of in-room internet at 4am https://www.google.com/search?q=japanese+hotel+internet+apol... -- Japanese train company issues apology for train leaving 20 seconds early https://www.g…

A lot of the apologies are "automatic" in Japan. As in, they dont even think on how to improve their processes and instead will default to a an apology instead.

Re: Nikon Issues Small Recall for a 16-Year-Old Film Camera

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Post by ekianjo »

vsareto wrote: post #18
supernova87a wrote: post #10

I love how the idea of Japanese conscientiousness has become almost a meme for how we wish companies were run. Other examples you've probably seen come across the webs: -- Hotel apologizes in advance for a brief 1 minute planned disruption of in-room internet at 4am https://www.google.com/search?q=japanese+hotel+internet+apol... -- Japanese train company issues apology for train leaving 20 seconds early https://www.g…

They even give you a note if the train is late: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delay_certificate

That's because your employer is usually an ass who needs you to come sharply on time (Flex work is still an alien concept in most Japanese companies) so you need an actual note to justify it was not your lazy ass' fault.

Re: Nikon Issues Small Recall for a 16-Year-Old Film Camera

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Post by Andrex »

csharptwdec19 wrote: post #19
supernova87a wrote: post #10

I love how the idea of Japanese conscientiousness has become almost a meme for how we wish companies were run. Other examples you've probably seen come across the webs: -- Hotel apologizes in advance for a brief 1 minute planned disruption of in-room internet at 4am https://www.google.com/search?q=japanese+hotel+internet+apol... -- Japanese train company issues apology for train leaving 20 seconds early https://www.g…

Nikon has had other issues in the past where they were much less quick to issue recalls. This likely only happened as quickly as it did because it's a Hazardous substance issue and not an overall quality issue.

> Nikon has had other issues in the past where they were much less quick to issue recalls.

16 years is "quick?"

Re: Nikon Issues Small Recall for a 16-Year-Old Film Camera

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Post by fuzzythinker »

gruturo wrote: post #20
supernova87a wrote: post #10

I love how the idea of Japanese conscientiousness has become almost a meme for how we wish companies were run. Other examples you've probably seen come across the webs: -- Hotel apologizes in advance for a brief 1 minute planned disruption of in-room internet at 4am https://www.google.com/search?q=japanese+hotel+internet+apol... -- Japanese train company issues apology for train leaving 20 seconds early https://www.g…

To be honest, a train leaving early SUCKS. You show up on time, and you find out you missed it. Maybe the next one is in 40 minutes, maybe it's the next day. (I realize 20 seconds early isn't that bad, but still, leaving early by any amount of time is a lot worse than leaving late)

At least they feel bad and apologized. Caltrain leaves early 20+ secs all the time and they cared less.

Re: Nikon Issues Small Recall for a 16-Year-Old Film Camera

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Post by pt »

supernova87a wrote: post #29
renewiltord wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this case, it's annoying because you'll have missed a semi-rapid and the next comparable train to Tsukuba will leave 9 minutes later and arrive 17 minutes later. It's not a 40 minute thing, this isn't Caltrain, but it's still annoying.

I loved (not really) how sometimes on Caltrain, if the trains were delayed, you could get on a delayed train after you had planned to travel, and get home sooner than if the trains had been running on time. (I'll let you think on that puzzle.)

Baby bullet.

Re: Nikon Issues Small Recall for a 16-Year-Old Film Camera

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Post by johnwalkr »

apengwin wrote: post #24
gruturo wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be honest, a train leaving early SUCKS. You show up on time, and you find out you missed it. Maybe the next one is in 40 minutes, maybe it's the next day. (I realize 20 seconds early isn't that bad, but still, leaving early by any amount of time is a lot worse than leaving late)

I think this is why trains and airplanes tend to be delayed so much. It is much better to be late than to leave early. A train that's late will usually still eventually arrive.

At Tokyo Narita airport, it is (well, was) running at capacity and if a flight is delayed, another flight may be rescheduled to an earlier time.

Re: Nikon Issues Small Recall for a 16-Year-Old Film Camera

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Post by krustyburger »

Andrex wrote: post #46
csharptwdec19 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nikon has had other issues in the past where they were much less quick to issue recalls. This likely only happened as quickly as it did because it's a Hazardous substance issue and not an overall quality issue.

> Nikon has had other issues in the past where they were much less quick to issue recalls. 16 years is "quick?"

The article explains that this recall is in response to a 2019 European rule change.
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