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U.S. attorney general: Hollywood, tech companies “pawns of Chinese influence”

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Re: U.S. attorney general: Hollywood, tech companies “pawns of Chinese influence”

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I'm not sure any major company has either 1) not done business with China or 2) not seriously tried to do business with China. The massive emerging market there was too much of a $$$ opportunity for them to ignore. Yes, there's a difference between, say, a fast food chain that tries to get a foot hold in China and a technology company that helps provide tools used to limit rights of free speech etc. However, this is…

> However, this is a matter of degree, not kind.

But it sounds like you think that the bad things about China (you specified limiting free speech) differ not in degree but in kind from bad things about other countries. Is that the case?

Re: U.S. attorney general: Hollywood, tech companies “pawns of Chinese influence”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

" Adding joke tags doesn't help much, and it's notable that you didn't wrap your entire insinuation in them anyhow. "

[edit] Retracting my unnecessary jab around the moderator's comments being modified several times and their moderation leaving a lot to be desired. The latter was rude and uncalled for.

I'll refrain from commenting on you personally, but I will say that I've been here for around a decade and dang's moderation has been excellent over that entire period.

Sometimes it has even been aimed at my comments, and I cannot really cite a single example where I feel dang has been unfair.

I would also note that you failed to even attempt to say why you think dang's moderation was lacking, here.

Re: U.S. attorney general: Hollywood, tech companies “pawns of Chinese influence”

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do you find it kinda scary that you can hate a regime so much given that you've never been to said country? I'm 99% sure you've never been to China given what you wrote.

Have you? How many cameras are there in the train station from HK to GZ? I lost count at 50. How many times do you go through a complete search as you take the metro trains? How many WeChat messages just never quite show up? Only pooh bear knows.

I've personally had my Facebook posts deleted so I don't know...

I mean do people of GZ look oppressed to you?

Re: U.S. attorney general: Hollywood, tech companies “pawns of Chinese influence”

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Called out by the current government that dog whistles? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog-whistle_politics I’ll take virtue signaling over dog whistling any day. I bet he doesn’t call out Apple after Cook kissed the golden ring during the photo op last year.

Please don't take HN threads further into political flamewar. Where it leads is equal parts predictable, nasty, and dumb. We're trying for better than that here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

It’s a post about the government calling out tech companies for being influenced about China but it is inappropriate to call out the same government’s hypocrisy?

A post about the government is going to be political by definition.

Re: U.S. attorney general: Hollywood, tech companies “pawns of Chinese influence”

#126

The same companies (rightfully) saying “Black Lives Matter” are willing to suspend Hong Kong protestors to appease the CCP. Just shows you how genuine their motives are, in case you had any doubts

Top athletes, celebrities from Hollywood etc all virtue signal while ignoring the problems going on in China and are willing to sell out to China. Since the COVID, China has been blatantly racist towards blacks and the US embassy had to notify people about the "Discrimination against African-Americans". Yet this got ZERO attention:

> China McDonald's apologises for Guangzhou ban on black people

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-52274326

https://china.usembassy-china.org.cn/health-alert-u-s-consul...

> In response to an increase in COVID-19 infections, officials in the Guangzhou metropolitan area escalated scrutiny of foreign nationals. As part of this campaign, police ordered bars and restaurants not to serve clients who appear to be of African origin. Moreover, local officials launched a round of mandatory tests for COVID-19, followed by mandatory self-quarantine, for anyone with “African contacts,” regardless of recent travel history or previous quarantine completion. African-Americans have also reported that some businesses and hotels refuse to do business with them. The U.S. Consulate General advises African-Americans or those who believe Chinese officials may suspect them of having contact with nationals of African countries to avoid the Guangzhou metropolitan area until further notice. Without advance warning, officials might require such individuals to submit to a COVID-19 test and undergo 14 days of supervised quarantine at their own expense.

> All U.S. citizens in China are subject to local law. If you violate Chinese laws, even unknowingly, you may be arrested, expelled, or imprisoned. The Chinese legal system can be opaque, and the interpretation and enforcement of local laws may be arbitrary. The judiciary does not enjoy independence from political influence. U.S. citizens traveling or residing in China may be subject to heightened scrutiny by Chinese local law enforcement and state security. They should carry identity documents at all times.

Re: U.S. attorney general: Hollywood, tech companies “pawns of Chinese influence”

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post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

" Adding joke tags doesn't help much, and it's notable that you didn't wrap your entire insinuation in them anyhow. "

[edit] Retracting my unnecessary jab around the moderator's comments being modified several times and their moderation leaving a lot to be desired. The latter was rude and uncalled for.

Oh it's true that I build my comments by posting an initial stub and then adding to them bit by bit. That's the process that works, for whatever reason. But I'd never do that to create a misleading impression—on the contrary, in such cases I'll always add "Edit". If you replied before I added the bit about joke tags, I didn't see that and I'm sorry.

I actually have the 'delay' field in my profile set to allow time for such incremental edits, but not for long enough to mask all of them.

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You mean like the government stopped doing business with Saudi Arabia after 9/11 or how we didn’t support the Osama led Sandinistas in the 80s? The US government can’t exactly stand up tsk tsking with any type of moral authority on anything.

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I’m calling out a government who could care less about foreign influence and only cares about the fact that tech companies won’t kiss the golden ring. I’m calling out the government’s motives.

Do you think they would call out the Koch brothers?

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I detest Trump (voted for Clinton) and most, if not all, senior members of his administration, including Barr. But that doesn't prevent me from ultimately being OK with some of their statements/actions, even if they're all for the wrong reasons. The regime in China represents evil on a scale that is probably unprecedented in Earth's history, and anything that can stop or slow its world domination should be welcomed o…

do you find it kinda scary that you can hate a regime so much given that you've never been to said country? I'm 99% sure you've never been to China given what you wrote.

I have been to China and have family from there. I can confirm that what he is saying is correct. China plays by a different set of rules.

Re: U.S. attorney general: Hollywood, tech companies “pawns of Chinese influence”

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There is so much to unpack here that it's difficult to even get started. The US government has encouraged companies to work with China for decades. I remember it being big news when GM opened a joint venture in China in 1997. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAIC-GM The Clinton administration pushed hard to increase trade with China and make it easier for American companies to outsource manufacturing. https://en.wikiped…

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