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Zulip 3.0: Threaded Open Source Team Chat

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Re: Zulip 3.0: Threaded Open Source Team Chat

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Post by garborg »

agustif wrote: post #2

Threads are the new black. It looks cool, might try it before Slack.

It's had that model way before Slack, et al., kind of bolted it on. I've participated lightly in a couple orgs that use Zulip. Zulip's model does a much better job of keeping convos from getting drowned out / lost when pushed off the page, so it's much easier to log in sporadically and meaningfully participate. The apps, especially mobile have rough edges, but I still prefer it to Slack and the like, fwiw.

Re: Zulip 3.0: Threaded Open Source Team Chat

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Post by chubot »

Threads are one major reason I like Zulip over Slack, but speed is another. I usually have two different instances open on my browser with no problems, and one of them has dozens of conversations going on at once.

Zulip is also one of the only apps I put on my iPhone, and it's straightforward and unobtrusive.

For some reason when I use Slack, the keys feel mushy. I think they're doing so much stuff in the background that my keystrokes get delayed.

Re: Zulip 3.0: Threaded Open Source Team Chat

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Post by isbjorn16 »

chubot wrote: post #4

Threads are one major reason I like Zulip over Slack, but speed is another. I usually have two different instances open on my browser with no problems, and one of them has dozens of conversations going on at once. Zulip is also one of the only apps I put on my iPhone, and it's straightforward and unobtrusive. For some reason when I use Slack, the keys feel mushy. I think they're doing so much stuff in the background…

They are the primary reason to use Zulip. In this way, Zulip is more of a Teams competitor than it is a Slack competitor.

I, frankly, cannot stand threads. I want a chat room, not a realtime forum. I understand why people would like that, but it still bothers the shit out of me.

I work for MS so we have to use Teams, but I'd prefer opt-in to threads vs. threads by default. I fully understand and accept that my way isn't going to be the way for everyone, but when looking for a community chat option for friends, we uninstalled zulip in less than a day and ended up going with matrix. That didn't work super well for us at the time so we went with Mattermost, which much closer aligns to our chat preferences.

The good news is there are tons of options for people to choose what fits best for them! That's super exciting!

Re: Zulip 3.0: Threaded Open Source Team Chat

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Post by rst »

chubot wrote: post #4

Threads are one major reason I like Zulip over Slack, but speed is another. I usually have two different instances open on my browser with no problems, and one of them has dozens of conversations going on at once. Zulip is also one of the only apps I put on my iPhone, and it's straightforward and unobtrusive. For some reason when I use Slack, the keys feel mushy. I think they're doing so much stuff in the background…

You may not even need the app. Zulip on Android Firefox is a better experience for me than the app, personally. (Tho the web version was, oddly, severely laggy in mobile Chrome the one time I tried it, some time ago...)

Re: Zulip 3.0: Threaded Open Source Team Chat

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Post by brians »

garborg wrote: post #3
agustif wrote: post #2

Threads are the new black. It looks cool, might try it before Slack.

It's had that model way before Slack, et al., kind of bolted it on. I've participated lightly in a couple orgs that use Zulip. Zulip's model does a much better job of keeping convos from getting drowned out / lost when pushed off the page, so it's much easier to log in sporadically and meaningfully participate. The apps, especially mobile have rough edges, but I still prefer it to Slack and the like, fwiw.

It's a descendant of Zephyr, a lovely chat system that had great success in the world of stable IPv4 addresses, statically assigned, but which really hasn't made the mobile transition acceptably. Namable threads are amazing.

Re: Zulip 3.0: Threaded Open Source Team Chat

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Post by StavrosK »

rst wrote: post #8
chubot wrote: post #4

Threads are one major reason I like Zulip over Slack, but speed is another. I usually have two different instances open on my browser with no problems, and one of them has dozens of conversations going on at once. Zulip is also one of the only apps I put on my iPhone, and it's straightforward and unobtrusive. For some reason when I use Slack, the keys feel mushy. I think they're doing so much stuff in the background…

You may not even need the app. Zulip on Android Firefox is a better experience for me than the app, personally. (Tho the web version was, oddly, severely laggy in mobile Chrome the one time I tried it, some time ago...)

Oooh, thanks for this. I adore Zulip but the Android app is pretty terrible :(
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