I'm disappointed they didn't put more effort into making the UI look like the old Edge. Things like the tab previews, or the sidebar-like way that bookmarks worked. Instead it's Chrome with a different home page. There's more changes behind the scenes of course, but from the user's perspective it's not obvious what the difference is between it and Chrome. And given the choice I think Chrome would win every time because for years there's been a sentiment that tech people don't use the Microsoft browser so it must be bad. The Edge rebrand was the attempt to reverse that perception, except now they've negated the benefit of the rebrand by taking away the things that distinguished Edge.
New Microsoft Edge
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Re: New Microsoft Edge
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Good. Great software learns from its users. It also makes developers' lives infinitely easier and ergo makes the product 10x better for endusers.
Great software companies talk to their users rather than take the data. Sorry but fuck the developers and cost. If your product can't make it to market without telemetry, then you have other problems.
My problem with Microsoft telemetry is this:
They take the data and still make decisions that are opposite of what the data clearly shows.
Re: New Microsoft Edge
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Citation needed? Linux users pining for Microsoft products is a rarity. Why would they go for a closed-source browser when they can go with the open-source, non-google Chromium (same engine) or Firefox?
One reason I might use it on Linux is to test our website/product UX on Edge and ensure wider coverage.
Would Edge for Linux be a valid test for Edge/Windows? Wouldn’t there be things like text rendering which would be platform specific?
Re: New Microsoft Edge
#54Interestingly, one of the most important battles in the browser (and apps in general) market now is the privacy aspect. There are two vendor groups here: one explicitly mentions it (Apple, Mozilla), and the other remains silent, speaking only about non-provacy features (Google, Microsoft).
This landing page explicitly mentions respecting privacy.
Marketing language is not always a reliable source of information
Re: New Microsoft Edge
#55I'm disappointed they didn't put more effort into making the UI look like the old Edge. Things like the tab previews, or the sidebar-like way that bookmarks worked. Instead it's Chrome with a different home page. There's more changes behind the scenes of course, but from the user's perspective it's not obvious what the difference is between it and Chrome. And given the choice I think Chrome would win every time becau…
> it's not obvious what the difference is between it and Chrome.
That's the whole point. If there's no difference between Edge and Chrome, why should the average user go out of their way to get Chrome?
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can configure Firefox to do native Windows authentication in an O366 enterprise environment. I have done this on my corporate laptop, and it lets me use Firefox as my primary browser for any corporate / SSO site. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Integrated_...
This is cool, thanks for the link. As an end-user, how would you go about determining the urls to add to the list?
I just checked and my URL list looks something like:
“corpdomain.com,microsoft.com,microsoftonline.com,office.com,corpdomain.sharepoint.com,corpdomain.local,windows.net”
If I find an SSO-enabled site that doesn’t work, I add it to the list. I hope that helps!
Re: New Microsoft Edge
#57Still no version for Linux. A lot of Linux users are getting impatient waiting for Microsoft to release this app.
Citation needed? Linux users pining for Microsoft products is a rarity. Why would they go for a closed-source browser when they can go with the open-source, non-google Chromium (same engine) or Firefox?
Plus one here and a few more in my company. I already run official Google Chrome everywhere and I don't give a hoot about running closed-source software, such as the official VS Code binaries.
I'm on Linux because it's the most practical choice for me, not because I'm a FOSS warrior. I want Edge because it's going to be a well-maintained option to get away from Chrome if I they start doing things I don't like, such as limiting ad-blocking with Manifest v3.
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#58If you have Edge by default then why would you want to install Chrome? Is M$ onto something here?
Re: New Microsoft Edge
#59I'm disappointed they didn't put more effort into making the UI look like the old Edge. Things like the tab previews, or the sidebar-like way that bookmarks worked. Instead it's Chrome with a different home page. There's more changes behind the scenes of course, but from the user's perspective it's not obvious what the difference is between it and Chrome. And given the choice I think Chrome would win every time becau…
Edge will be installed on Windows computers by default. People need to specifically download and install Chrome.
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#60I don’t understand why Microsoft are still in the browser game. It would be like continuing to make mobile phones or mp3 players which they also lost a long time ago.
What would you suggest they do instead? Because if they don't roll their own around Blink the answer isn't going to be "Ship Firefox" because if you actually ask all your users and developers "Just ship Chrome" will come out way on top. Not saying I agree with it but thats reality. I'm more disgusted by the browser mono culture than most and how so many engineers recoil when I bring up their work isn't functioning at…
i’d suggest they stay out of business they can’t be successfully at. if your strategy is to ride the entrenched windows desktop vs. make an awesome product that people love then you will lose in the long run.