>She told me she welcomed the diagnosis of a neurobiological disorder, which confirmed her problem was ‘real’ – brought on by a physiological force external to her volition – and that it showed she’s not ‘just a slacker’. That is such an arbitrary distinction. As if being "just a slacker" doesn't have a number of deeper reasons behind it as well. Brains are just machines at the end of the day, every behavior is a res…
Let’s avoid talk of ‘chemical imbalance’: it’s people in distress
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#23> to defeat this othering and reduce stigma, clinical practice needs to move away from biogenetic causal language This is a pretty big assertion that the piece casually drops without backing. The reasoning as to why "chemical imbalance" is a bad descriptor is apparent* from the study [0] the author cites, but there is nothing that backs up this statement, which seems to be the crux of the whole piece. *Even the study…
If we don’t know then we don’t know. Calling it a chemical imbalance implies knowledge that does not exist.
Fascinating conundrum.
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#24Are lifetime outcomes really better on all these Drugs? Maybe after you already created drug addictions, a different drug would help.
Prior to drug use, I imagine therapy, monetary support, education, etc... Would all be better than 2020s brand name Adderall.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Came here to make a similar comment. Scientists are not supposed to be activists - focusing on eliminating words that carry stigma from popular (or scientific) use makes me question not just objectivity but qualifications as a scientist. Is there any space that ideologues haven't infested yet?
No, I'm very sorry report that there are exactly zero areas of human action, practice, or thought that aren't infested with ideology.
Yeah, sure, everything is political, but that doesn't mean you are obligated to inject your politics into everything.
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#26Anyone who speaks of psychological issues with absolute conviction is wrong. Psychological processes and coping mechanisms are affected by hormones, neurochemicals, and lifestyle. Hormones, neurochemicals, and lifestyle are affected by psychological processes and coping mechanisms. While drugs aren't a panacea, they can help many with fixing psychological processes that are messed up.
This isn't like a simple infection, where you take a pill and it will go away.
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#28However, in the real world many people are resistant to the idea of therapy and/or medication as it feels like admitting defeat. Or perhaps they've read cherry-picked horror stories of bad therapists or medication side effects on the internet.
Giving people the "chemical imbalance" narrative is a way to short-circuit many of those internal objections. It gives people a notion that the depression isn't their fault, but rather they are a victim of a chemical change in their body not unlike getting the flu or having low testosterone levels.
In terms of getting people to accept treatment, it's a win. Getting past the ego can be surprisingly hard, but the idea that we're treating chemicals instead of treating the person is a clever trick to sidestep that obstacle and shortcut to the treatment.
In terms of giving people the tools to address their problems, it's not so clear. The more we reinforce the idea that depression is simply chemicals in the brain, the longer it takes for people to realize that they do have some power to influence their thought processes and voluntarily replace negative thought processes with positive ones.
However, it's important to remember what a typical course of treatment looks like. If someone is suffering from depression, getting them to commit to weekly therapy sessions with another person as well as following up with the therapy homework (that is, actually implementing what was discussed at therapy) can be a difficult proposition. Getting someone to stop by the pharmacy on the their way home and spend 10 seconds taking a pill every morning for the next 30 days is an easier proposition. The medication is often the jolt that gets people into a place where they're receptive to therapy, or they start making life changes to improve their depression. It's a quick and easy way to give people space to solve their problems, which is why the "chemical imbalance" sales pitch has become the entry point to getting people on board with treating their depression. Get them to lower their guard, get them started on the easiest treatment, and then work on scaling the treatment up to a more intensive, longer-term plan after they've seen hints of success.
I don't particularly like the "chemical imbalance" sales pitch either, but it really does function as a decent hook for getting people over their objections to starting treatment.
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#29Magnesium is used by the body to cope with stress. I've noticed in the past, that when I've been under a ton of stress, I drink coffee, soda, ruminate a ton, and things get worse, much worse. I've started taking magnesium l-threonate the past few months and it's literally made me a better person. Thoughts come and go. The rumination, the "voices" are much less. One scoop, three times a day during stressful periods (1…
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#30Anyone who speaks of psychological issues with absolute conviction is wrong. Psychological processes and coping mechanisms are affected by hormones, neurochemicals, and lifestyle. Hormones, neurochemicals, and lifestyle are affected by psychological processes and coping mechanisms. While drugs aren't a panacea, they can help many with fixing psychological processes that are messed up.
For anyone interested in "chemical imbalance" theory, I highly recommend reading Carhart-Harris and Friston's paper "REBUS": http://pharmrev.aspetjournals.org/content/71/3/316 -- the basic gist of Friston's model is that the brain functions as a prediction engine, whose "prior probabilities" are "programmed" by past experience (within some environment). This paper addresses the role of serotonin: it reduces the "weighting" of our "prior probabilities" which gives them some malleability, meaning we can allow ourselves to adjust more fully to a new environment (or, if you flood yourself in serotonin, like with psychedelics ... it can nudge your highest-level priors, such as "who am I"?).
So from this perspective, we can see depression as a mis-adjustment between one's self (i.e. adaptation to past environments) and one's current environment (no chemicals involved here), and serotonin can provide a little nudge toward re-adapting.