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Hiring Developers: You're Doing It Wrong

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Re: Hiring Developers: You're Doing It Wrong

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While at my last job I was tasked with being apart of the interview process. My favorite question was "how do you keep up with web technology and trends? (web development)" and I was surprised at how many people had no answer for that simple question.

My response to my manager was "this dude wont work"

Re: Hiring Developers: You're Doing It Wrong

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I am getting down votes for this?! WTF? Look at the domain name and understand the original post, before downvoting! Think and then act!

Yeah, keep downvoting me and don't even have the curtesy to write a comment as to why!

Re: Hiring Developers: You're Doing It Wrong

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Seems to me you just shouldn't ask typical "CS problems". The problem with those is that a positive result doesn't necessarily mean that the candidate knows anything. It could be that they've just interviewed so many times that they know a few common answers to memorize.

I still think asking coding questions is extremely important. Programming is one job where you can actually test skill in the interview (unlike management for example, where you mostly have to rely on personality, work history, and references). I don't know why you woulnd't take advantage of that opportunity.

As for culture fit, obviously you need to do that too, but that's somewhat orthogonal to what else you ask about in the interview.

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I am getting down votes for this?! WTF? Look at the domain name and understand the original post, before downvoting! Think and then act!

Yeah, keep downvoting me and don't even have the curtesy to write a comment as to why!

Disclaimer: I'm not downvoting you but I believe you are being downvoted because people thought the original joke was offtopic and not all that funny. I mean, are you seriously defending the honor of a penis joke here? Don't take it personally. I know it's hard sometimes... (almost no pun intended)

Re: Hiring Developers: You're Doing It Wrong

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Why not just pair with the interviewee for half a day or a day? You will learn how they think and work and if you like them. It's a riddle to me. I've never heard from anyone actually trying it and not being happy with the insight won.

I'm a lot more interested in how someone breaks down an architectural problem than I am in how well they can implement heap sort on a whiteboard. The closer the interview is to real coding the more you learn.

Of course, github is the real resume now.

Re: Hiring Developers: You're Doing It Wrong

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The only hiring process I have found to work for developers is to sit down and work on real code together.

This gets to the heart of the matter, and you very quickly feel out someone's knowledge, ability, and most importantly, how well they collaborate on a problem. Because in a startup you will need collaboration, and likely under the highest stress moments you've seen in your life.

I also feel like this gives applicants a much better opportunity to learn about their possible future company and coworkers, and whether they themselves would like the fit. If you have not done this sort of interview, even if you have never pair programmed, try it out. It's very effective.

What I'm still trying to learn, is what screening process to use ahead of this. Sadly, you can't invite everyone for an on site day long interview. The best I've come to is to look at what applicants have made on their own time or alternately how they talk over the phone about topics and problems they're excited about. Resumes are nearly useless.

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No humor on HN allowed!

I am getting down votes for this?! WTF? Look at the domain name and understand the original post, before downvoting! Think and then act!

I haven't downvoted you, and usually don't reply to posts like this, but I think that making posts to complain about getting downvoted is just encouraging it.

Re: Hiring Developers: You're Doing It Wrong

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I never really understood why companies don't just take a non-trivial real problem that they have run into during development. Just ask the candidate to talk it out, see if they are able to at least get on their feet toward a solution or an idea of possible solutions.

I've never hired anyone, but I can tell you that I could write a linked list in a handful of languages. I can also tell you that it doesn't say much about what I know (or perhaps more importantly, don't). Problem solving is what is important, more important than ability to write code on a whiteboard.

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