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Re: Riot is now Element

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It is not great, but it is also not a disaster. See Go, React, Rust, Processing, Atom, Windows, etc...

Windows makes sense. Windows to the world. Go has a sensible keyword: golang for searchability. Atom is awful. Rust is awful (programs rust and fall apart over time). React is not bad, it reacts to data changes. Processing is unknown to me.

Atom and rust have a technical audience

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No!!! Of all the names in the world why this. "Hey bro, let's chat on Element" ,not quite a ring to it. The hardest problem in computer science strikes again! Matrix,Riot and Libolm are epic projects, I wish them all the success but man, even Riot was a hard sell as a brand. I would seriously be dissapointed if it loses popularity over this. I don't think the project maintainers understand that their core users/fans…

You're allowed to dislike the name. I like the new name. If you're pissed about Element, you must be absolutely livid about Apple.

Apple and many fruit names are catchy and memorable. Like blackberry!

Re: Riot is now Element

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No!!! Of all the names in the world why this. "Hey bro, let's chat on Element" ,not quite a ring to it. The hardest problem in computer science strikes again! Matrix,Riot and Libolm are epic projects, I wish them all the success but man, even Riot was a hard sell as a brand. I would seriously be dissapointed if it loses popularity over this. I don't think the project maintainers understand that their core users/fans…

Reminder: you can fork and rename the software into whatever you want

Re: Riot is now Element

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No!!! Of all the names in the world why this. "Hey bro, let's chat on Element" ,not quite a ring to it. The hardest problem in computer science strikes again! Matrix,Riot and Libolm are epic projects, I wish them all the success but man, even Riot was a hard sell as a brand. I would seriously be dissapointed if it loses popularity over this. I don't think the project maintainers understand that their core users/fans…

Does any statement starting with "Hey bro" have a ring to it?

Re: Riot is now Element

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Does "whatsapp" sound like messaging? or "Skype"? or "Slack"? or "IRC"?

IRC = internet relay chat chat does sound like messaging Skype sounds like a made up word. Nothing wrong with that.

The point of having a made up name that has nothing to do with the thing it is about is that it makes defending a trademark easier.

Re: Riot is now Element

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No!!! Of all the names in the world why this. "Hey bro, let's chat on Element" ,not quite a ring to it. The hardest problem in computer science strikes again! Matrix,Riot and Libolm are epic projects, I wish them all the success but man, even Riot was a hard sell as a brand. I would seriously be dissapointed if it loses popularity over this. I don't think the project maintainers understand that their core users/fans…

Whatsapp can be an extremely confusing name for non-native English speakers. I'm from Spain and I think 90% of the time I see it written in Spain, it's written wrong (wassap, whasapp, wuatsapp, whatsap, watsap, wuassap, wuassapp, whatsup, watsup, etc.). Sometimes a phonetically "transliterated" version is used instead, like "guasap", which I find more tolerable because at least then it becomes a genuine Spanish word,…

It's a clever name. As an english speaker if some comms app out of spain named QuéPasapp that I wouldn't declare that it's name should be changed just because it's based on a spanish expression? I don't really see the problem. Until there's a universal language that everyone speaks this will happen over and over.

Re: Riot is now Element

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I still dont understand why Slack is popular when there is a free open source solution matrix/riot/element that works just as well.

I use both Slack and Riot (in browser). Slack is slow, but it manages threading and notifications much better than Riot.

I want urgency hint set upon receiving new messages, and yes, desktop notifications. I am not sure what browsers do differently, but I use `dunst` notification daemon, and `notify-send` (and other programs) works well with it. I wish Riot (or Element) supported both. Of course only with with proper customizability.

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I actually don't like "Signal" either, because it's such a common word that it makes it hard to search for it online. "Telegram" is marginally better, since original telegrams are not very relevant today. But yeah Element is arguably even worse, it's a super common noun and it doesn't seem to have anything to do with communication. But in the end these naming discussions are always going to end up as bikeshedding. If…

This name is not mediocre, it's sub par. It's not searchable, memorable on its own or memorable in relation to what it's for. You need at least one of those.

Wait until they start adding to it.

Element Prime Element Whisper

Re: Riot is now Element

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Wow, native English speaker and I didn't even get the pun until this comment. I thought it was a stupid play on "What app should we message each other on?" and thus kind of a silly name. But folks use it regardless.

Also a native English speaker, also had no idea it was supposed to be a pun until right now. I just thought it was another silly name from an Asian company.

Are you thinking of Wechat? Whatsapp is run by Facebook.
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