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Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Would you have a house with windows on the street? Do you walk outside without body armor and a bullet proof vest? Get in a cab... without knowing the driver or having bullet proof glass? Society wouldn't be very fun or fruitful if we all lived in secure underground bunkers.

Welcome to life outside of developed countries. This is life even for some countries considered 'developed'.

Well the victim's business was in developing countries. Perhaps his killer or killers were based there too.

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This sounds a bit extreme. Which ones are the “outside of developed countries” and how many of them require walking around in body armor everywhere?

This has been the norm growing up in the Philippines. We lived in a gilded fortress and we're not drug dealers. We learn about the dangers of being kidnapped before we enter grade school. I can go on, but it's not much different from life in many parts of South America, Africa, and South & South East Asia. You're not required to wear body armor, but seeing that there are armed guards posted outside of a KFC with body…

I find it concerning that so few people are aware of the differences between their middle or upper class lives in the US and the average life for a citizen in less privileged places. To many, the thought of carrying a weapon or wearing armor to protect yourself is insane. And then there's the ones who have seen what the world can throw at you buying ar-15s and plate carriers and being villainized for it.

The diversity of human experience is truly staggering.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Would you have a house with windows on the street? Do you walk outside without body armor and a bullet proof vest? Get in a cab... without knowing the driver or having bullet proof glass? Society wouldn't be very fun or fruitful if we all lived in secure underground bunkers.

There's a qualitative difference between wanting to live in a bunker, and having the front door key to my house be on the Internet for anyone with a blank and a bastard file to copy in half an hour. Not that penthouse problems will ever be my problems, granted. But let's not be too absurd here.

If you have that kind of money you can build a concrete wall with a vault door in front of the elevator.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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A stringer captured this video below of a similar incident that happened recently in New York. Could this be related/ him? https://youtu.be/iJIImjO9lVw

Looking at the address on Street View, it definitely appears to be the same building.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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> The condos in the building are full-floor and the keyed elevator opens right into the apartment. Doesn't this mean that anybody with the [widely, publicly known] FDNY elevator override key can get right into the apartment? I've seen far too many physical pentesting talks (i.e. any at all) to trust a setup like that for my home in a city.

Doesn't seem to be the issue in this case: > One of the law enforcement officials said a surveillance camera had captured video of Mr. Saleh in the building’s elevator with another person who was wearing a black suit and black mask. On the video, the elevator door opens and Mr. Saleh goes into the apartment, the official said. The masked person follows directly behind him, and the two immediately start to struggle, t…

Is that quote from a different article? I'm either not seeing it in the article or my ctrl+F powers are failing me.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Would you have a house with windows on the street? Do you walk outside without body armor and a bullet proof vest? Get in a cab... without knowing the driver or having bullet proof glass? Society wouldn't be very fun or fruitful if we all lived in secure underground bunkers.

Welcome to life outside of developed countries. This is life even for some countries considered 'developed'.

While there is some correlation of murder rates and GDP, it's rather noisy: https://wernerantweiler.ca/blog/2017-10-04-a.pdf

The GINI seems to be a somewhat better fit: https://i.imgur.com/vYSsLMw.png

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Could have just as easily been a date, a hookup, a serial killer, someone perturbed at wealth inequality and better living standards. Just as much as this financial or business hitman speculation. Its all happened in NYC. Chopped up into bags sounds like cartel or organized, it happened to OneCoin promoters in Mexico this month too. But we dont know yet for this case. The chance is part of the rush.

Dismembering someone is something that most people do not have the fortitude for and goes way beyond a crime of passion. It is not just as likely to have been a "date, hookup or somone perturbed at inequality". Serial killer, maybe, however they are much rarer than some sort of cartel/organized outfit.

Could just be a mentally ill person who somehow latched onto this one guy in their paranoia. Also probably much rarer than organized crime hits.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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I worked at a small US defense contractor for a couple of years. I was not in that loop, but my impression from those that were was that this sort of thing was to be expected if you entered into competition against the wrong incumbent.

Referring to that happening in the US too or just abroad?

In the US. But here we are better at keeping it down low.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Doesn't seem to be the issue in this case: > One of the law enforcement officials said a surveillance camera had captured video of Mr. Saleh in the building’s elevator with another person who was wearing a black suit and black mask. On the video, the elevator door opens and Mr. Saleh goes into the apartment, the official said. The masked person follows directly behind him, and the two immediately start to struggle, t…

Is that quote from a different article? I'm either not seeing it in the article or my ctrl+F powers are failing me.

yeah, dang mentions the link was changed a couple of times

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Saudi Arabia carried out an extrajudicial killing in a small, neighboring state. This was carried out in the US. And for all intents and purposes could be considered an act of war against a state that has an unlimited war chest.

Turkey isn’t small in any way. It’s a regional powerhouse.

Not to mention and I guess a lot of people dont know this but Turkey was one of the main allies of the USA not too long ago for quite a while at that. It was quite a strategic alliance too. Just look at Turkeys neighboring countries sometime.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey%E2%80%93United_States...

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