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Re: Riot is now Element

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Post by bigintjin »

gagege wrote: post #320
lostcolony wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Complete tangent, but, by any chance, when you read things, do you not 'hear' a voice in your head reading them? Curious, because I'm pretty sure the first time I ran across Whatsapp it was in text, but I tend to 'hear' the things I read/write in my head, as though a voice read them to me. And because of that the pun stuck out. It might just be I'm more inclined to look for puns (playing games with them all the time…

I don't think that's it, I hear words in my head, but didn't get the pun until I watched a Jimmy Fallon bit where he made fun of the name.

Following on this train, as an fluent English speaker, millennial, Asian American that grew up in Texas public school all my life, and a lover of memes and puns...I also didn't realize WhatsApp was a pun...woah.

Re: Riot is now Element

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Post by INTPenis »

seizethegdgap wrote: post #296
INTPenis wrote: post #293

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Speaking of branding, Dart isn't the best brand either. I mean anyone interested in it would search for Dart language. Just like anyone interested would sarch for Element matrix. I tried your client with my own synapse instance but couldn't login, no error message. I click the question mark to search for instances, click use my instance, fill in username:instance.tld but nothing happens. It works with RiotX.

Is your " /.well-known/matrix/client" set up?

I assume so, I mean it took a while to get it right so that Riot would work. But now both Fractal, RiotX, the old Android app and Riot-web work fine.

We can continue this in the Issues I guess. I noticed there was a planned improvement for error snackbars in the login so that would solve half of the issue. But I found no other issue with problems logging in open right now.

Re: Riot is now Element

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Post by kminehart »

Al-Khwarizmi wrote: post #173
_8j50 wrote: post #85

No!!! Of all the names in the world why this. "Hey bro, let's chat on Element" ,not quite a ring to it. The hardest problem in computer science strikes again! Matrix,Riot and Libolm are epic projects, I wish them all the success but man, even Riot was a hard sell as a brand. I would seriously be dissapointed if it loses popularity over this. I don't think the project maintainers understand that their core users/fans…

Whatsapp can be an extremely confusing name for non-native English speakers. I'm from Spain and I think 90% of the time I see it written in Spain, it's written wrong (wassap, whasapp, wuatsapp, whatsap, watsap, wuassap, wuassapp, whatsup, watsup, etc.). Sometimes a phonetically "transliterated" version is used instead, like "guasap", which I find more tolerable because at least then it becomes a genuine Spanish word,…

the way my family in Spain says Whatsapp is so funny. "tengo un mesnaje en la wassa"

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Post by dexterdog »

lmns wrote: post #205
rvnx wrote: post #144

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Slack is an absolutely horrible name, especially for work-related purposes; it doesn't reflect messaging but laziness and productivity waste.

Which is exactly the point of the name, isn't it? The name makes you think of leisure time, but in fact you are still working and discussing work-related things while using it.

You haven't seen most people use slack then

Re: Riot is now Element

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Post by usbfingers »

INTPenis wrote: post #332
seizethegdgap wrote: post #296

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Is your " /.well-known/matrix/client" set up?

I assume so, I mean it took a while to get it right so that Riot would work. But now both Fractal, RiotX, the old Android app and Riot-web work fine. We can continue this in the Issues I guess. I noticed there was a planned improvement for error snackbars in the login so that would solve half of the issue. But I found no other issue with problems logging in open right now.

There is currently a snackbar in the login for errors. Just signed out and typed in a wrong password to make sure I didn't break anything. However, I am on version 0.0.19. If you downloaded the app from F-Droid, you're on the first public build. I'm still trying to get another update out from the initial release.

I've added a new ticket linking back to this comment and I'll look into the issue. I have several people using Syphon with their own homeservers successfully so I'm thinking the problem has to do with a silent error that's unrelated. Thanks for the feedback though and feel free to respond in the github issue itself.

Re: Riot is now Element

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Post by teekert »

sushshshsh wrote: post #226
neutronicus wrote: post #132

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WhatsApp sounds like "what's up" - it definitely suggests conversation The other two are meaningless, but at least monosyllabic - "I'll Skype you," "I'll Slack you," "I'll ... Element you?"

"I'll Riot you" is also a non-sequitur at best

Perhaps less confusing than Signalling someone :)

Re: Riot is now Element

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Post by gkoberger »

izietto wrote: post #16
gkoberger wrote: post #10

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I think those names are taken. (Really though, Slack is as generic of a word as Element! It just had a strong connotation now)

Yeah they are taken, I meant a name of that kind, rather than an already existing word that is pretty common too

Slack is an existing word that's pretty common word, though, which was my point.

So are Zoom, Medium, Apple, Windows, Segment, etc. We just don't remember that sometimes, because the company has redefined the word.

Re: Riot is now Element

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Post by aaaaarghZombies »

OK serious question perhaps someone connected to matrix / element will see this.

The name change from riot coincided with the murder of George Floyd and following surge unrest under the banner of Black Lives Matter. What's the teams position this, are they trying to distance themselves from the protests, if so why? If not, why?

Re: Riot is now Element

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Post by asimops »

What I don't understand: 'Riot is now Element', yet when you click on 'Get Element' on the website and select the android app > 'Riot.im' by 'Vector Creations Limited' package name 'im.vector.app' IMHO if you rebrand it, everything should be in place.

Re: Riot is now Element

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Post by vpzom »

neutronicus wrote: post #132
gregoriol wrote: post #112

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Does "whatsapp" sound like messaging? or "Skype"? or "Slack"? or "IRC"?

WhatsApp sounds like "what's up" - it definitely suggests conversation The other two are meaningless, but at least monosyllabic - "I'll Skype you," "I'll Slack you," "I'll ... Element you?"

You shouldn't say that anyway, since the protocol is called Matrix
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