His company's wikipedia page is being edited to remove any mention of his death. Quite suspicious
More like one user made a single revert that will soon be reverted.
Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo
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#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
Operating mode sounds much like it happened with Jamal Khashoggi, could he be another victim of MBS or some other Saudi prince?
Why would that be the case? Khashogi was clearly speaking up and was wanted killed, even he knew it
Money and/or power tend to be the causes for these things, unless it's personal.
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#243"Police source say a business deal gone bad is being investigated as a motive for the killing. There’s no indication that NYPD detective are eyeing past controversies involving PrankDial." Seems like some other moving pieces in play with his past startup. "The tech bro found sliced into pieces in his $2.25 million Lower East Side condo made a name for himself by creating a prank phone call app that led to the downfal…
Describing him as a "tech bro" in the first line is needlessly derogatory. Implying he deserved it. Like calling a rape victim "scantily clad." Pretty gross journalism if you ask me: designed to create outrage and drive clicks.
They also refer to his startup as "Gorkada" multiple times. If they managed to screw that up, I don't have a lot if faith in the rest of the article.
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#244Earlier quoted context omitted.
They could have abducted or blackmailed him but killing him like that makes no sense from an investors POV, they get nothing back and the risk of getting caught. Hope he will get justice
They get him dead, which can enough for some particularly evil people with a grudge. Look at e.g. (probably) the FSB poisoning Litvinenko, six years after he fled to the UK. After six years there wasn't much to gain for the FSB other than making an example out of him and retribution.
Yes but this is diferent though. Those were ex spies who “talked” and wanted to send a message to other spies as in “if you talk we’ll find you anywhere”.
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#245Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo
#246> The condos in the building are full-floor and the keyed elevator opens right into the apartment. Doesn't this mean that anybody with the [widely, publicly known] FDNY elevator override key can get right into the apartment? I've seen far too many physical pentesting talks (i.e. any at all) to trust a setup like that for my home in a city.
Would you have a house with windows on the street? Do you walk outside without body armor and a bullet proof vest? Get in a cab... without knowing the driver or having bullet proof glass?
Society wouldn't be very fun or fruitful if we all lived in secure underground bunkers.
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#247Earlier quoted context omitted.
Okay, to play devil's advocate for a moment. What is there to gain financially from killing him, if his previous business was gutted by regulatory changes? The killer was evidently belonging to a highly capable skillset, and I'm extrapolating that they very nearly got away with his body in tow, and nobody would've been the wiser. Could they not have kidnapped him and ransomed the company? If there's financial qualms…
> if his previous business was gutted by regulatory changes? There are some people you just don't want to owe money to. I'm not speculating on if that was the case here, just that in the US, that sort of thing is the realm of movies. Elsewhere in the world (and also parts of the US) that still the reality of borrowing large sums of money.
Given the local environment they operate in I wonder if someone was on the take for them to operate originally. Maybe the regulation changes cause Gokada to not want to pay but that wasn't copacetic with the demands of the "shaker"?
As you pointed out, business in these countries isn't clean and clear as it is in most countries HN'ers live in.
I saw crazy shakedowns in Northern Africa when I briefly lived there. I wouldn't doubt the same to be seen in other countries.
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#248Earlier quoted context omitted.
Turkey has the second largest military in NATO (after US) and by quite a margin
Turkey leadership may well be sympathetic to the Saudis to some extent. Freedom of press doesn't exactly seem like their biggest concern, and they have an authoritarian Muslim ruler.
They might be, no doubt. I was mainly objecting (unrelated to the article) to the 'smallness' of the neighboring state and to the fact that if something could be considered an act of war doesn't mean it will be one. Bottomless oil well is a good counter to an unlimited war chest.
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#249It reminds me of the killing of Jamal Khashoggi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamal_Khashoggi), and then this appears in the article. Coincidence?
> According to a 2016 blog profile, Mr. Saleh was born in Saudi Arabia, and moved with his family quite a bit before settling in Rochester, N.Y., and, later, in Poughkeepsie, N.Y.
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#250Earlier quoted context omitted.
They get him dead, which can enough for some particularly evil people with a grudge. Look at e.g. (probably) the FSB poisoning Litvinenko, six years after he fled to the UK. After six years there wasn't much to gain for the FSB other than making an example out of him and retribution.
Yes but this is diferent though. Those were ex spies who “talked” and wanted to send a message to other spies as in “if you talk we’ll find you anywhere”.
The same could be said that if you don't make good on investments or "the take" if there was one, you are handled.
Not saying I agree, but I can see where the circumstances aren't different.