I agree with others that the survey is a bit suspect, but I do believe it is possible that Dodges don't have a lot of problems. Look at the cars they sell! They haven't changed their cars much in at least ten years. That is not a knock on them, Americans like Chargers and Challengers. If you are making the same car for ten years or more I hope you get very good at it.
Tesla worst for reliability in American driver survey
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Re: Tesla worst for reliability in American driver survey
#52> the Elon Musk-founded firm Musk didn't found Tesla. From Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Tesla,_Inc . > Tesla was incorporated on July 1, 2003 by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning. and that they, with a third employee, > connected with Elon Musk, who contributed US$6.5 million of the initial (Series A) US$7.5 million round of investment in February 2004
Technically speaking his investment came with a retroactive co-founder status according to the company. But yeah no he wasn't there in the beginning.
Re: Tesla worst for reliability in American driver survey
#53This is one of the more damning articles for me. It includes nuggets I used to say as joke about what would happen if MS made a car including: “I have tried a reset but the glove compartment will not open after pressing the button…any ideas?” One response asked if the car was in Valet mode. When told it wasn’t, they followed with: “ok. That’s the ‘normal’ cause of random glove locking. Try putting it on and turning i…
This isn't specific to a Tesla though. Some years ago a friend bought a VW Phaeton (the W12 long is an underrated car I think). The boot wouldn't open. VW told him to reboot the car. Didn't work and he had to get a software update to make the boot work again.
"If you put a computer in a fridge you get a computer that can cool things down."
Re: Tesla worst for reliability in American driver survey
#54JD Power is clearly in bed with the traditional Detroit automakers. If you look at their history of rewards[0], you'll find that many times they choose the big three american companies vehicles over clearly superior import vehicles. They're vehicles on the page show one vehicle from each of the three big automakers in the US, one Chevy, one Ford, and a Dodge. There's also a Volvo in there that I'm sure fought some ba…
As someone who used to be an automobile engineer working for a
big automaker in the a previous life, J.D power rankings are a complete farce.
Their surveys are designed so that a particular automaker will win (overrating certain metrics for no reason) and then make money by charging automakers to use those awards.
They have a vested interest in giving awards to automakers that are more in need of them. (not German or Japanese automakers)
Re: Tesla worst for reliability in American driver survey
#55JD Power is clearly in bed with the traditional Detroit automakers. If you look at their history of rewards[0], you'll find that many times they choose the big three american companies vehicles over clearly superior import vehicles. They're vehicles on the page show one vehicle from each of the three big automakers in the US, one Chevy, one Ford, and a Dodge. There's also a Volvo in there that I'm sure fought some ba…
The most awarded brands section backs up your point too. Granted Toyota is number one, but then you have the three big American brands right after that.
Also it's hard to tell, but I believe the Volvo in the picture is the one that is made in South Carolina.
Re: Tesla worst for reliability in American driver survey
#56> the Elon Musk-founded firm Musk didn't found Tesla. From Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Tesla,_Inc . > Tesla was incorporated on July 1, 2003 by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning. and that they, with a third employee, > connected with Elon Musk, who contributed US$6.5 million of the initial (Series A) US$7.5 million round of investment in February 2004
Technically speaking his investment came with a retroactive co-founder status according to the company. But yeah no he wasn't there in the beginning.
"Retroactive co-founder" - I wonder if that approach would work in other areas too. Like, how much would it cost to buy the status of an "Original member of the Beatles"?
Re: Tesla worst for reliability in American driver survey
#57Manufacturing quality is hard. Tesla, as a SV company, isn’t really interested in manufacturing it seems. Think they could really benefit from merging with Toyota especially at this valuation.
>Think they could really benefit from merging with Toyota especially at this valuation.
Merging them would create a mass of online fanboys so dense that it creates an automotive black hole. It will be impossible for discussion of any other brand to build up enough speed to exit the fanboy-well.
Joking aside, brands that start with T and end with A seem to have a disproportionate number of very loud online fanboys. I can understand why they have the following they do but it doesn't make them any less insufferable.
Re: Tesla worst for reliability in American driver survey
#58The survey is meaningless if they do not disclose the questions.
You could also argue that Tesla is misleading since it won't allow customers in 15 states to fill out surveys.
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It's also essentially a regular car with a 144v battery and larger starter motor. Otherwise, very conservative.
By the same metric, isn’t Tesla just like a regular car but with a bigger battery, no engine and a really big starter motor? I mean cars before that had all the adaptive cruise control stuff anyway which is the same but just a bit better right?
No, the interior and it's controls are completely different. The touch screen interface is a huge difference.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a Tesla owner, I think it’s not a great rental car. A lot to learn.
I think it is clearly opposite: media in mazda is insanely hard to learn.
I bet that Mazda is stupidly easy to get into, start, put it in gear and drive though, and I bet it will behave predictably on the road like a normal car would. Everything else is secondary. Teslas definitely have a learning curve if you have never driven one.