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Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by libraryatnight »

alpha_squared wrote: post #183

> Condos in the building feature Italian marble kitchens and master baths, white oak floors and asking prices in the $2 million to $2.5 million range, according to the real estate website StreetEasy. The website Curbed noted in a 2017 article that access to the building’s units was via a private, keyed elevator. This is such a strange paragraph to read in an article like this. I see the relevance of the last sentence…

The whole article has this weird tone like it's part of a hard boiled detective novel: “You kind of forget New York City is New York City sometimes,” she said.

I like hard boiled detective novels, but it felt weird here when I reminded myself this isn't a short story, this is a real man who was just murdered with family and friends and neighbors.

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Post by dopamean »

ed25519FUUU wrote: post #103

> Inside the man's living room, sources say it appeared the killer worked hard to cover their tracks, but was perhaps interrupted or got spooked before getting rid of the evidence. Uh, those luxury apartments have cameras everywhere . Why would they think they could cover anything?

Everywhere? They certainly don't have them in the unit unless the owner put them there.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by adrianmonk »

MeanSpirit wrote: post #49
adrianmonk wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No value judgment is offered about whether a luxury condo is a good, bad, or neutral thing.

The fact that it's there to begin with implies it was noteworthy enough to include it, and the choice of including something versus not including is a value judgement. If instead the title read, "New York tech entrepreneur found decapitated wearing expensive suit", it would be more likely to strike people as odd, but isn't it essentially the same thing?

It may have not been clear, but I meant "value judgment" specifically in the moral framework sense: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_judgment

Whether a piece of information is relevant/interesting/newsworthy/etc. is a judgment too, but not the kind I was referring to.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by umeshunni »

cellar_door wrote: post #188
agrocrag wrote: post #115

"Police source say a business deal gone bad is being investigated as a motive for the killing. There’s no indication that NYPD detective are eyeing past controversies involving PrankDial." Seems like some other moving pieces in play with his past startup. "The tech bro found sliced into pieces in his $2.25 million Lower East Side condo made a name for himself by creating a prank phone call app that led to the downfal…

Describing him as a "tech bro" in the first line is needlessly derogatory. Implying he deserved it. Like calling a rape victim "scantily clad." Pretty gross journalism if you ask me: designed to create outrage and drive clicks.

What a pathetic piece of shit this Stephen Rex Brown (https://twitter.com/PPVSRB) has to be to write an article so terrible about someone who was just brutally murdered.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by alpha_squared »

umeshunni wrote: post #192
alpha_squared wrote: post #183

> Condos in the building feature Italian marble kitchens and master baths, white oak floors and asking prices in the $2 million to $2.5 million range, according to the real estate website StreetEasy. The website Curbed noted in a 2017 article that access to the building’s units was via a private, keyed elevator. This is such a strange paragraph to read in an article like this. I see the relevance of the last sentence…

I think the author is trying to set context that this is an upscale neighborhood and access to the building is difficult, so this is unlikely to be a random robbery or assault and more likely to a planned murder.

Wasn't that already explicit in the tagline of the piece?

> An electric saw was found near the man’s torso, law enforcement officials said. Units in the Lower East Side building have sold for more than $2 million.

The additional details about tiling and decor seem quite superfluous.

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Post by libraryatnight »

dopamean wrote: post #200
Naac wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably not. There is most likely another door once the elevator opens, that also require some sort of key.

I have several friends who live in these types of apartments and all of them have apartments where the elevator opens directly into the unit. This is a common setup.

I've never been in such an apartment, but that is how Robin Colcord's private elevator worked on Cheers, so I believe you.

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Post by JKCalhoun »

monoideism wrote: post #157
vkou wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If a poor person were murdered like this, it would be newsworthy. > The fact that this may be a politically charged murder makes it even more newsworthy. No, it wouldn't be. And I can tell you why. A suitcase stuffed with parts from two (recently) dismembered bodies was found on a Seattle beach two or three weeks ago. [1] Neither of the deceased were tech entrepreneurs, and, unsurprisingly, this did not make Hacker…

> Neither of the deceased were tech entrepreneurs, and, unsurprisingly, this did not make Hacker News, Why did you expect? This is a community of programmers and tech entrepreneurs. We get articles all the time on the front page about deceased programmers, computer scientists, and tech entrepreneurs. This poor guy was a tech entrepreneur.

You removed from the OP quote:

> nor more than a whisper on the national media circus. I presume you haven't heard about it, either.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by ddeck »

vmception wrote: post #85
filleduchaos wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's worth noting that there was a sudden & pretty draconian regulation passed early this year that gutted Gokada's primary business (ridesharing on motorbikes). He was very passionate in his disagreement with the government's decision. The company pivoted pretty neatly (in my opinion) to last-mile deliveries instead - the pandemic certainly helped drive demand - but currently there's morbid speculation that potentia…

Could have just as easily been a date, a hookup, a serial killer, someone perturbed at wealth inequality and better living standards. Just as much as this financial or business hitman speculation. Its all happened in NYC. Chopped up into bags sounds like cartel or organized, it happened to OneCoin promoters in Mexico this month too. But we dont know yet for this case. The chance is part of the rush.

>Could have just as easily been a date, a hookup, a serial killer, someone perturbed at wealth inequality and better living standards.

The CCTV footage would seem to make those first two somewhat less likely:

"One of the law enforcement officials said a surveillance camera had captured video of Mr. Saleh in the building’s elevator with another person who was wearing a black suit and black mask."

"On the video, the elevator door opens and Mr. Saleh goes into the apartment, the official said. The masked person follows directly behind him, and the two immediately start to struggle, the official said."

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by alpha_squared »

libraryatnight wrote: post #201
alpha_squared wrote: post #183

> Condos in the building feature Italian marble kitchens and master baths, white oak floors and asking prices in the $2 million to $2.5 million range, according to the real estate website StreetEasy. The website Curbed noted in a 2017 article that access to the building’s units was via a private, keyed elevator. This is such a strange paragraph to read in an article like this. I see the relevance of the last sentence…

The whole article has this weird tone like it's part of a hard boiled detective novel: “You kind of forget New York City is New York City sometimes,” she said. I like hard boiled detective novels, but it felt weird here when I reminded myself this isn't a short story, this is a real man who was just murdered with family and friends and neighbors.

The byline has three names. Including an editor, does that means four sets of eyes saw no problem or had no concern with how this piece was presented? It's such an unfortunate event and I can only imagine how many people will be directly impacted by it. The tone is just so jarring.

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Post by JKCalhoun »

tehwebguy wrote: post #155
stanfordkid wrote: post #87

What a tragedy. If this has ties to any foreign business or government entity, I truly hope that the U.S government and military forces take swift and lethal action. Sometimes I feel like this is the sort of thing where the justice system and public media just don't work... send some SEALS to knock out whoever did this. It reminds me of the type of thing that happens with central american drug lords. I wish the artic…

I mean, Stanford didn't even dial back their dealings with Saudi Arabia after MBS did the same thing to Khashoggi (and Trump used veto to sell SA billions of $ in weaponry after the fact). Like it or not, the US is not going to do anything.

Ouch.
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