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Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by catalogia »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #107
capitol_ wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a quite hard question to answer, as if it's done correctly no-one will know and the person will simply vanish. And there is of course countless reasons why someone vanishes, but then again, there is a lot of missing people: https://www.statista.com/statistics/240387/number-of-missing...

Those numbers are astounding. Slightly south of half a million kids/teens go missing every year? And 150,000 adults? How many of these cases are never closed?

> The vast majority of child abduction cases in the United States are parental kidnapping, where one parent hides, takes, or holds a child without the knowledge or consent of another parent or guardian.[3] Depending on the state and the legal status of the family members, this might not be a criminal offense. In 1976, parental kidnappings in the United States stood at 60,000.[clarification needed] By 1984, it was between 459,000 and 751,000.[citation needed] In 2010, the US Department of Justice reported 200,000 cases of parental kidnapping; these comprised both domestic and international abductions.[4]

> Fewer than 350 people under the age of 21 have been abducted by strangers in the United States per year between 2010–2017.[5]

> The federal government estimated about 50,000 people reported missing in 2001 who were younger than 18. Only about 100 cases per year can be classified as abductions by strangers.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_in_the_United_State...

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by yetanta »

polycaster wrote: post #60
jeffbee wrote: post #5

The focus on the cost of the victim’s dwelling is so weird. I hope when they find my body they don’t waste half the article projecting local housing policy onto me, as if it were my fault.

And yet this is the most debated thread of this post. Very telling. The news folks are sending the messages the HN crowd falls for (just like the rest).

News is not news. It is entertainment. Pick your flavor and let them tell you how to feel.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by gregshap »

jeffbee wrote: post #5

The focus on the cost of the victim’s dwelling is so weird. I hope when they find my body they don’t waste half the article projecting local housing policy onto me, as if it were my fault.

Definitely weird, but it’s a local news site and New Yorkers eat up housing market gossip.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by escape_goat »

Fahim Saleh was born in Saudi Arabia and was killed in a manner that "appeared professional" and then dismembered.

This could easily be an atrocious crime by an individual or related to — for instance — organized crime in Nigeria, but it is sobering that one of the usual suspects when something like this happens is a state actor.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by saltminer »

jeffbee wrote: post #129
GCA10 wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Media guy here. Lots of NYC readers/viewers either live in luxury condos or have a point of view about people who do. For people who do live in such places, the $$$ that they've paid to be there is meant to create a safe and elegant island from all the clatter and chaos of NYC street life. Murders in such settings instantly trip the "fear alert." Now all of our LC residents need to know how the deed was done and if t…

The only security tip you can glean from these events is you shouldn't ride up to your own apartment with your own killer. Reports in actual newspapers, rather than local TV stations from far-away cities reprinting wire stories, mention these salient facts.

They may well have not rode up with the killer. Get a set of fire keys and you can force an elevator to go to any floor, regardless of what fancy keys or tokens the elevator uses to restrict access. And since the elevator opens directly into the apartment, you don't even have to get the victim to unlock their door.

Edit: I can buy the FDNY fire key on Amazon. Anyone could have pulled this off.

Edit 2: The NYT article (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/nyregion/dismembered-body...) does say he was in the elevator with his killer. It seems the ABC7 article is lacking a lot of information.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by flyingfences »

> The condos in the building are full-floor and the keyed elevator opens right into the apartment.

Doesn't this mean that anybody with the [widely, publicly known] FDNY elevator override key can get right into the apartment? I've seen far too many physical pentesting talks (i.e. any at all) to trust a setup like that for my home in a city.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by alien_ »

dkroy wrote: post #146
marcinzm wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>that'd be geopolitical suicide Saudi Arabia seems to be doing fine last I checked.

One interesting fact linked to this country is that he was born in Saudi Arabia as well. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/nyregion/dismembered-body...

Operating mode sounds much like it happened with Jamal Khashoggi, could he be another victim of MBS or some other Saudi prince?

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by Apocryphon »

rshnotsecure wrote: post #62
filleduchaos wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ORide was not in any form the "chosen winners" - in fact, they were driven out of the market by the regulation in question. I know there is the tendency for Westerners to clutch pearls when anything even remotely referencing China is mentioned but at least temper it with reason.

This is not true and does not reflect the volume and metric of news. China is treated extremely gently for such gross human rights abuses. I grant that Americans could still be hysterical about them, but then why would Russia be mentioned say 5:1 more in the news than them? Are we hysterical hysterical about them then?

Why even bring up Russian intelligence anyway? If you're going to mention state actors, why even mention China and Russia and not ISI, RAW, Mossad, IRGC, Saudi GID, or even North Korea? It's all so arbitrary.

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by aptidude187 »

kinghajj wrote: post #158
jedimind wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was still not born in Bangladesh nor did he live there, but he lived and grew up in America. This article didn't mention a single word of Bangladesh, it was still mentioned by the root comment merely for ideological purposes.

> He was still not born in Bangladesh nor did he live there Sure, and all OP wrote is > (his original country) Though it's not 100% correct, it's easy to see how someone's family coming from there would be summarized as their "original country." > it was still mentioned by the root comment merely for ideological purposes. What ideology? All the OP pointed out was that this person had strong ties to Bangladesh, both i…

> All the OP pointed out was that this person had strong ties to Bangladesh, both in heritage in business,

No he didn't, can you quote that part for us please?

Re: Co-founder of Gokada found decapitated, dismembered inside New York condo

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Post by danenania »

jeffbee wrote: post #129
GCA10 wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Media guy here. Lots of NYC readers/viewers either live in luxury condos or have a point of view about people who do. For people who do live in such places, the $$$ that they've paid to be there is meant to create a safe and elegant island from all the clatter and chaos of NYC street life. Murders in such settings instantly trip the "fear alert." Now all of our LC residents need to know how the deed was done and if t…

The only security tip you can glean from these events is you shouldn't ride up to your own apartment with your own killer. Reports in actual newspapers, rather than local TV stations from far-away cities reprinting wire stories, mention these salient facts.

Non-doorman apartment buildings seem to have a glaring vulnerability: social pressure. Because > 99.9% of the people trying to go in behind you are your neighbors or people visiting your neighbors, not criminals, it's difficult to tell people no.

I bet it's possible to get into almost any building in a US city just by wearing a suit and telling people you forgot your keys. Eventually someone will let you in.

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