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Re: New Leaks of the Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Nano

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Post by nobleach »

flohofwoe wrote: post #21
pmontra wrote: post #12

I'm glad to see a resurgence of 16:10 screens. I'm waiting to see bezels shrink to the point I'll have a nearly 15" 16:10 screen in a 14" laptop body, not to have a number pad.

As a programmer I would really like to have more choices of 3:2 or even 4:3 aspect ratio laptops (because of the added vertical space, which is really much more valuable when working mostly with text on fairly small displays). For 3:2 I'm only aware of the MS Surface and Huaewei MateBook laptops, and Thinkpads were probably the last 4:3 laptops(?).

The MateBook really is a nice looking laptop. The folks I've known that have purchased them have all run into reliability issues within a year (non-booting machines, spacebar stops working, other weird things) I looked into them before I bought my Thinkpad X1C. I still like that screen though.

Re: New Leaks of the Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Nano

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Post by superhuzza »

philliphaydon wrote: post #16
bitwize wrote: post #10

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Running Slack.

Or chrome. Need 64gb option to run both.

I honestly can't tell if you're being serious.

I'm using a 6/7 year old ASUS with 8gb of RAM. It has no problems running 20 Chrome tabs, Slack, Spotify, VSCode all at once. Are these programs really pushing people's laptops that hard, or is my laptop some kind of weird mega-performer?

Re: New Leaks of the Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Nano

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Post by rrrazdan »

regularfry wrote: post #31
pqb wrote: post #19

> 13.0 | 16:10 | 2K | 450nits | 100% sRGB | Optional Touch > Ultra-narrow bezel | 85% STB It is very nice move from the Dell [0], and also now Lenovo to bring 16:10 display in laptops. It was always for me strange decision, when laptop manufactures decided to use 16:9 displays for all, even for pricey, high-end models. I am highly enthusiastic to see 16:10 displays back after ten years, when numerous notebooks had 15…

I was doing some work on an old 4:3 IBM X41 last weekend. Reminded me what we've lost.

Stop romanticising the past. :) You are certainly having more characters vertically on screen on current environments plus having more horizontally.

Re: New Leaks of the Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Nano

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Post by Roritharr »

jhatax wrote: post #67

When Apple first eliminated all but two (or four) USB-C ports, there was a ton of vitriol towards Apple on HN. In the years since Apple’s move, both Dell and IBM have adopted Apple’s playbook and are in the process of eliminating ports, and there are no comments on how everyone will need dongles to connect peripherals or get their work done. - What has changed in our use of laptops over the last 12-months that dongle…

Dongles are still hell, I regularly still use USB-A and HDMI on my notebook.

My Toshiba Portegé X-30-D is coveted in our company as it has:

1x Full-Size USB3

1x Full-Size HDMI

2x Thunderbolt USB-C (Displayport Support on both)

Micro-SD Slot

Headphone Jack

32GB of Socketed DDR4 Ram

1TB NVMe SSD

Matté Full-HD Touchscreen

Windows Hello Face&Fingerprint Recognition

and weighs only 1,05 kg

The only bottleneck is the i7-7500U Dual-Core CPU that I got because I couldn't wait another generation and now I just don't know what to upgrade to. I hope once USB4 becomes available there will be a Ryzen 4800U successor powered notebook available that just MATCHES the rest of the specs of my current one.

Re: New Leaks of the Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Nano

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Post by dijit »

rrrazdan wrote: post #73
regularfry wrote: post #31

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I was doing some work on an old 4:3 IBM X41 last weekend. Reminded me what we've lost.

Stop romanticising the past. :) You are certainly having more characters vertically on screen on current environments plus having more horizontally.

Stop romanticising the present.

Wider (and, crucially: shorter) displays were foisted on us by the majority of computer users being heavy media consumers the desire to consolidate supply chains.

The efficacy of a 16:10 (or 5:2) screen is undeniable.

I’ve been looking for a good 16:10 screen to replace my aging Dell U2412M’s for over 5 years at this point.

Re: New Leaks of the Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Nano

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Post by oliwarner »

eumenides1 wrote: post #59
Mashimo wrote: post #13

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I read that the X1 was developed with Intel, and thus they can't use AMD CPUs in that lineup. I don't know if it's true or not. It was a random reddit comment.

Time. I saw the HP Envy on Linus' Tech-tips review and the battery life on AMD CPUs is ridiculous. 14 hours on battery. For most people, you might be able to bring your laptop to work WITHOUT a power brick. I'm personally not a fan of HP laptops, but i'm looking forward to AMD CPUs on thinkpad and Dell XPS laptops. There is no way there isn't going to be a X1 type laptop with an AMD CPU. Lenovo can't leave that kind…

Almost seems strange they've kept that 522g battery in there, when they could have had ~10h battery life and a machine approaching a kilo.

Re: New Leaks of the Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Nano

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Post by nobleach »

diffeomorphism wrote: post #53
pmontra wrote: post #14

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It's not my use case but I know developers commuting with 13" laptops (weight and size) and connecting them to a large monitor in their office and working with VMs and containers. 16 GB is the minimum, 32 GB is the best option.

Wouldn't you want something more powerful for that? Combining 15W cpu, ultralight, small form factor (constrained thermals) with 32GB for VMs and containers seems like a bad fit.

It's fine for running Kubernetes locally and IntelliJ. Chrome tends to be the HUGE offender in my setup. It can chew through so many Gigs just due to open tabs. The processor rarely is my roadblock. It's always memory.

Re: New Leaks of the Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Nano

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Post by tridentlead »

bityard wrote: post #66
tridentlead wrote: post #62

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To add to this, Phillips screws are designed to cause the screwdriver to cam out. This is done so you can’t over torque the screw hole. This also makes them really annoying sometimes.

No, it was found that they have a tendency to cam out and it was later claimed that cam-out was a feature not a bug.

Regardless, using Pozidrive, JIS, Torx or similar is better for your soul.

Re: New Leaks of the Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Nano

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Post by RandomBacon »

abdusco wrote: post #52
heelix wrote: post #41

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I just updated my personal laptop with the dell xps 17 largely because it has a glorious 16:10 screen. My only complaints with the machine is the tiny torx screws on back are very fragile - got an M.2 drive waiting to go in it so I can do my linux install. Lovely screen, decent keyboard and trackpad. All in all, pretty happy with it.

I stripped a couple of screws on my XPS 13 and was about to break the bottom panel out of anger & frustration. Instead I bought a new, quality set of screwdrivers and managed to open it, then replaced torx screws with phillips head M2x3 screws. Highly recommend.

Weird. I bought a torx screwdriver to open my new XPS 13, and the screwdriver stripped. I bought a better screwdriver, and didn't have any problems with the screws or screwdriver after that.

(Stripped screwdriver was Husky brand from Home Depot, better screwdriver was a less-expensive, higher-quality one from Harbor Freight.)

Re: New Leaks of the Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Nano

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Post by oliwarner »

stjo wrote: post #63
eumenides1 wrote: post #59

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Time. I saw the HP Envy on Linus' Tech-tips review and the battery life on AMD CPUs is ridiculous. 14 hours on battery. For most people, you might be able to bring your laptop to work WITHOUT a power brick. I'm personally not a fan of HP laptops, but i'm looking forward to AMD CPUs on thinkpad and Dell XPS laptops. There is no way there isn't going to be a X1 type laptop with an AMD CPU. Lenovo can't leave that kind…

14 hours compared to 13h for a similar intel based laptop. Not really that impressive. Correct me if I’m wrong, but most of the power consumption comes from the screen anyways.

Yup, only 7% better battery.

But... 20% cheaper. 50% faster in multi-threaded tests, 20% faster in single-threaded tests.

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