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Re: Amazon Cloud Drive and Amazon Cloud Player

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Post by hyperbovine »

roc wrote: post #148
pkulak wrote: post #36

Streaming seems a bit silly when I've got 16 gigs sitting empty on my phone. I just want synching. I'll use Pandora if I want to stream. And then I'm not restricted to just my library.

I'd be very surprised if this isn't step 1 to a whole-phone-data-sync solution. Media, Data, third party app API -- the whole shebang.

I think the hype has raced ahead of the technology here. "Streaming everything" on today's smartphones seems to give you about 2 hrs of battery life, a problem for which there does not appear to be a near-term solution. Moreover, no wireless network in America could support that mode of usage on a large scale, and that will also be true for the foreseeable future. Or so it seems to me -- anyone in the know care to comment?

Re: Amazon Cloud Drive and Amazon Cloud Player

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Post by MatthewPhillips »

hyperbovine wrote: post #161
roc wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd be very surprised if this isn't step 1 to a whole-phone-data-sync solution. Media, Data, third party app API -- the whole shebang.

I think the hype has raced ahead of the technology here. "Streaming everything" on today's smartphones seems to give you about 2 hrs of battery life, a problem for which there does not appear to be a near-term solution. Moreover, no wireless network in America could support that mode of usage on a large scale, and that will also be true for the foreseeable future. Or so it seems to me -- anyone in the know care to co…

There is a solution, which several companies already implement (Rdio and Spotify, at least). You can sync tracks to your device. I haven't used MOG or Rhapsody so I'm not sure if they do it as well (anyone?) but it seems like the obvious solution. It's the best of both worlds, as you can still stream if you want.

Re: Amazon Cloud Drive and Amazon Cloud Player

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Post by OstiaAntica »

edanm wrote: post #137
jrockway wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not necessarily true, really. When you save your current location on a Kindle, that's handled by an app running on EC2. That's just an example: I am sure pretty much all of Amazon's products use the AWS infrastructure.

That's what AWS was developed for originally - running Amazon's products.

Actually, that is sort of a myth. AWS was built independently of the core Amazon.com platform and specifically for the cloud marketplace.

Re: Amazon Cloud Drive and Amazon Cloud Player

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Post by cma »

dotBen wrote: post #75

The music aspect of this makes a great headline - and also great case for why the avg joe consumer should want all this cloud storage. But for me the real story here is the ability to store any file or document, and aggressive prices of bigger storage tiers. Dropbox's prices have always seemed unreasonably high to me - and I'm tempted to move all my personal docs over to Amazon and use DropBox just for social sharing…

Dropbox's prices are cheap, but only when you consider how many free plans you are subsidizing.

Re: Amazon Cloud Drive and Amazon Cloud Player

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Post by JabavuAdams »

technomancy wrote: post #160
JabavuAdams wrote: post #123

Is using the term "cloud" a branding / marketing mistake? The cloud is generic and multi-vendor. It's a utility. This angle makes sense when talking to developers. OTOH, I could see a lot of users being confused because they put stuff "in the cloud", but they can't get it back (from another vendor i.e. different cloud).

> The cloud is generic and multi-vendor. It's a utility. This angle makes sense when talking to developers. I just set my dad up with SFTP on a dreamhost account, and he keeps calling it his "cloud storage" account. I think beyond the developer world it's starting to just mean "I don't have to back it up, and I can reach it from anywhere."

Well, my points were:

1) Vendor-centric: It's a missed opportunity for Dreamhost, because your Dad won't think of their brand.

2) User-centric: What happens when he has two "cloud" accounts from different vendors? Will he expect them to work together?

Re: Amazon Cloud Drive and Amazon Cloud Player

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Post by techtalsky »

DonnyV wrote: post #136

Amazon's storage plans are expensive compared to Google's Amazon 5 GB (FREE) 20 GB ($20 / year) 50 GB ($50 / year) 100 GB ($100 / year) 200 GB ($200 / year) 500 GB ($500 / year) 1000 GB ($1000 / year) Google 20 GB ($5.00 USD per year) 80 GB ($20.00 USD per year) 200 GB ($50.00 USD per year) 400 GB ($100.00 USD per year) 1 TB ($256.00 USD per year)

Yeah, my collection is 120 GB. I'd love to try this just so I could DJ from my whole collection while at a friend's house (instead of just what's on my phone) but wouldn't pay ~$200 for the privelege.

Re: Amazon Cloud Drive and Amazon Cloud Player

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Post by dstein64 »

dchest wrote: post #109
dstein64 wrote: post #37

I tried uploading a file to the cloud drive using Chrome, and then I viewed the file. I copied the URL and pasted it into Firefox, where I was not logged in to amazon.com or their cloud storage. It still loaded the file. If you tried doing this with a gmail message, gmail would prompt you to log in. I am not too familiar with cloud storage. Is this a security issue?

It didn't work for me: SignatureDoesNotMatch The request signature we calculated does not match the signature you provided.

The first time I tried it, I used a PDF file, since it opens in the browser and I could easily access the URL. I just tried again, and I was able to replicate the issue I mentioned, this time using Chrome and Internet Explorer. I tried uploading a different file type (a simple text file) that also loads in the browser, and I was able to replicate with that file as well.

Re: Amazon Cloud Drive and Amazon Cloud Player

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Post by roc »

hyperbovine wrote: post #161
roc wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd be very surprised if this isn't step 1 to a whole-phone-data-sync solution. Media, Data, third party app API -- the whole shebang.

I think the hype has raced ahead of the technology here. "Streaming everything" on today's smartphones seems to give you about 2 hrs of battery life, a problem for which there does not appear to be a near-term solution. Moreover, no wireless network in America could support that mode of usage on a large scale, and that will also be true for the foreseeable future. Or so it seems to me -- anyone in the know care to co…

I wouldn't imagine "streaming everything" is the way to interpret this.

Think of it more like Dropbox-style-sync for your whole phone (likely configurable to only happen when in wifi), plus the option to stream if you really want.

The average user will be using the wifi-sync by default without even realizing it and probably never even consider streaming all their music.

Re: Amazon Cloud Drive and Amazon Cloud Player

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Post by originalgeek »

wheels wrote: post #62

I think there are two really interesting things about this: • This is the first time Amazon has pulled together the two major branches of their business, retail and cloud infrastructure, into something (dare I say it?) synergetic. • Amazon is taking the first steps into the non-retail consumer web, where, if successful, they'll probably give a good scare to a handful of startups as they sweep across segments (and wit…

Seems like that synergy is SOP for them. How many sales do they make every day?
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