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Experimental evidence of massive-scale emotional contagion thru social networks (2014)

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Re: Experimental evidence of massive-scale emotional contagion thru social networks (2014)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But they were specifically taunting them and influencing them. They put up posts with negative emotions. If just one post caused someone to commit suicide in the negative study group, and facebook showed it to them one time more than normal, they are culpable. Given the large N value, I find it difficult to believe this didn't happen.

Negative emotions is already a significant chunk of social media in general and news media as well. So...very slippery slope definition for culpability you've got there.

That's why social media feeds must use a dumb algorithm.

Re: Experimental evidence of massive-scale emotional contagion thru social networks (2014)

#13

This is insanity. How did this study pass an ethics council? They admit to exposing people to negative emotional cues at random? Their N is 689K. At this point, they are certainly responsible for some number of suicides. The authors should be ashamed of themselves. Their salary is being paid by manipulating people's emotions on purpose. Something is wrong with that.

The issue is that they published it in a journal? Otherwise an ethics board isnt required for running an A/B test

Re: Experimental evidence of massive-scale emotional contagion thru social networks (2014)

#14

Needs a (2014)

The article appeared in a footnote to another post that offers something of a historical overview of the use of predictive data [0].

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23836500

Re: Experimental evidence of massive-scale emotional contagion thru social networks (2014)

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Here's a simple mechanism for emotional contagion:

1. Mirroring is the behavior in which one person unconsciously imitates the gesture, speech pattern, or attitude of another. -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirroring

2. The facial feedback hypotheisis is that one's facial expression directly effects their emotional experience -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_feedback_hypothesis

So you subconsciously imitate expressions and gestures from characters in media, even text, which activates corresponding emotional states. The states persist long enough to propagate to people you interact with, like ripples.

It's just that the faster mirroring, feedback and propagation of bits over atoms are generating waves rather than ripples. Beware of tsunamis.

Re: Experimental evidence of massive-scale emotional contagion thru social networks (2014)

#17
> "It's just that the faster mirroring, feedback and propagation of digits over atoms are generating waves rather than ripples. Beware of tsunamis."

that's how the hysteria concerning corona has crashed all over our economy and social infrastructure.

as in, lockdowns won't stop the virus and they're immaterially better than distancing (with masks for when you can't), but the economic and social costs (including the politically motivated backlash) are massive, and yet we keep imposing that enormous cost on ourselves to make us feel like we're doing something about it, no matter how trivial the effect or how great the costs, to assuage our irrational fears.

Re: Experimental evidence of massive-scale emotional contagion thru social networks (2014)

#18
I wish we didn't have to rely on tweets that are possibly lies and certainly have bias, but I found this pretty interesting.

It's a travesty the scientific comment can't and won't comment on it. So random tweets are what we have.

"7 out of 9 teenage girls at this school have detransitioned since lockdown and one is considering it."

https://twitter.com/transgendertrd/status/127768841560624742...

Re: Experimental evidence of massive-scale emotional contagion thru social networks (2014)

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> "It's just that the faster mirroring, feedback and propagation of digits over atoms are generating waves rather than ripples. Beware of tsunamis." that's how the hysteria concerning corona has crashed all over our economy and social infrastructure. as in, lockdowns won't stop the virus and they're immaterially better than distancing (with masks for when you can't), but the economic and social costs (including the p…

ICU filled up fast in Houston after the lockdown ended. How does that fit with your idea here?

Re: Experimental evidence of massive-scale emotional contagion thru social networks (2014)

#20

This is insanity. How did this study pass an ethics council? They admit to exposing people to negative emotional cues at random? Their N is 689K. At this point, they are certainly responsible for some number of suicides. The authors should be ashamed of themselves. Their salary is being paid by manipulating people's emotions on purpose. Something is wrong with that.

The issue is that they published it in a journal? Otherwise an ethics board isnt required for running an A/B test

Seems like there are several concerns: the journal, a question of whether the FB usage agreement permitted such a report from being published, and generally whether it is ethical (separate from the review board question). Some more discussion:

http://ulan.mede.uic.edu/alansz/2014/07/an-open-letter-to-pn...

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