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Post by some-guy »

user982 wrote: post #421
smsm42 wrote: post #353

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I don't remember a single example of anybody fired from their job for opposing Iraq War (I'm not talking about top politicians, of course). I don't remember anybody fired from any papers for allowing an article opposing Iraq War to be printed. I don't remember people being beaten up in the street by rampaging mobs for opposing Iraq War. Can you provide any example of that happening?

Phil Donahue. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Donahue#MSNBC_program On February 25, 2003, MSNBC canceled the show. Soon after the show's cancellation, an internal MSNBC memo was leaked to the press stating that Donahue should be fired because he opposed the imminent U.S. invasion of Iraq and that he would be a "difficult public face for NBC in a time of war" and that his program could be “a home for the liberal an…

Thanks, Phil Donahue was the main example I thought of.

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Post by eruci »

She raises valid points. The pendulum has swung too far to the left, at least in the press. The news reading average person is being constantly reminded to comply with this type of ideological straightjacket.

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Post by mns »

archagon wrote: post #462
koheripbal wrote: post #376

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Arresting someone is not how intimidation works. If you arrest someone, your intimidate gets the light of the court. Leftist extremism is exactly avoiding the court system by applying pressure to rob people of their livelihood - a much more immediate, public, and potent method of intimidation - and an excellent way to set an example to others who might speak against the theocracy.

That’s little different from a boycott, which has always been a tool available to the powerless.

There was the case of the guy working for the company involved in the Obama campaign who published a paper based on a study of an african-american professor saying that historically speaking violent riots will lead to more right leaning people voting. He got called out a racist, made to apologise, got fired and ostracised in his research community. Would you say he got boycotted?

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Post by iateanapple »

orwin wrote: post #354
eric_b wrote: post #211

The "orthodoxy" the author writes about is real. I am a skeptic and cynic by nature. In my experience "common wisdom" is usually anything but. In software and technology I've found when you eschew dogma and "best practices" you more often than not get better results. But, in 2020 you cannot question or be skeptical of the "progressive" agenda. Merely hinting that you are not fully bought in will get you labeled as a…

> But, in 2020 you cannot question or be skeptical of the "progressive" agenda. Merely hinting that you are not fully bought in will get you labeled as a racist, or even worse these days, a "Conservative". Is it really the case? Or is it a perception you have? I've become less and less liberal the past three months, for multiple reasons, and at least in my liberal bubble, i did not face any backlash.

> I've become less and less liberal the past three months, for multiple reasons, and at least in my liberal bubble, i did not face any backlash.

A lot of people are becoming less liberal - your liberal bubble might be trending in the same direction.

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Post by some-guy »

iateanapple wrote: post #509
some-guy wrote: post #260

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I was interviewing a candidate last year for a software engineering position. Interview was fine and he was capable. I decided to find him on Twitter. He said immigration was ruining the country, and that there are too many Indians / Chinese in the Bay Area. About half of my organization either have an H1B visa or a green card. Am I a McCarthyist for rejecting him outright without hesitation?

> Am I a McCarthyist for rejecting him outright without hesitation? Yes. Why can’t he have an opposing view from you on immigration? I was on a visa and could still see the h1b program was being abused. We often have less than ideal experiences with other cultural groups. That’s normal. Is your work culture toxic because of your visa holders? Would you refuse to hire feminist women because you had a mostly male team?

McCarthy was a senator in high levels of government. When I consider who I'm employing to be around the people around me, I expect them to be judged on their merits of the job, not their country of origin or visa status.

You can criticize H1B programs and their abuse, but saying there are too many Chinese and Indians explicitly and rejecting them for that is not "McCarthyism".

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Post by rukittenme »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #510
eric_b wrote: post #211

The "orthodoxy" the author writes about is real. I am a skeptic and cynic by nature. In my experience "common wisdom" is usually anything but. In software and technology I've found when you eschew dogma and "best practices" you more often than not get better results. But, in 2020 you cannot question or be skeptical of the "progressive" agenda. Merely hinting that you are not fully bought in will get you labeled as a…

>merely hinting that you are not fully bought in will get you labeled as a racist, or even worse these days, a "Conservative". oh my god . the HORROR . People call you names! > [the WP ] has moved so far left as to become almost a caricature of a "news" paper maybe you should get out a bit more. there are other traditions of journalism (notably in the UK) that do not cling to this "noble ideal" of "objectivity". when…

> oh my god. the HORROR. People call you names!

It is a horror when a private political opinion can get you fired, de-platformed, and removed from society.

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Post by malachi99 »

vixen99 wrote: post #425
GaryNumanVevo wrote: post #278

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Weird to see Joe Rogan here, he literally just parrots whatever his guest is saying. Used to love watching until I realized he just repeats whatever sentiment his guest is saying. He had Stefan Molyneux and Gavin McInees on, and never once challenged them on their white supremacist views.

A bit of aside admittedly but not knowing much about Molyneux I checked to see his credentials as a 'white supremacist'. Perhaps I should I have just relied on what Twitter and countless parrot sites say about him (try a search on his name). But I didn't. In https://www.freedomain.com/2020/07/07/what-i-believe-stefan-... I found: "I do not believe that any race is “superior” or “inferior.”. "Eugenics is a government…

From the SPLC: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/indi...

“I don’t view humanity as a single species...” —Podcast FDR2768, “Collective Guilt for Fun and Profit”, Saturday call-in show, August 9, 2014

“The whole breeding arena of the species needs to be cleaned the fuck up!” —Podcast FDR2740, “Conformity and the Cult of ‘Friendship’,” Wednesday call-in show July 2, 2014

"Screaming 'racism' at people because blacks are collectively less intelligent...is insane." —YouTube video, The Death of Europe | European Migrant Crisis, October 4, 2015

“You cannot run a high IQ [white] society with low IQ [non-white] people…these [non-white] immigrants are going to fail...and they're not just going to fail a little, they are going to fail hard…they're not staying on welfare because they’re lazy...they’re doing what is economically the best option for them...you are importing a gene set that is incompatible with success in a free-market economy.” —YouTube video, The Death of Europe | European Migrant Crisis, October 4, 2015

“...white people will bend over backwards to accommodate you, but when they finally get that they’re just being taken advantage of...you will see a backlash, and that backlash will be quick, decisive, and brutal.” —YouTube video, The Death of Germany | European Migrant Crisis, September 16, 2015

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Post by psds2 »

bgorman wrote: post #416
jrumbut wrote: post #383

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I wish I could award you several upvotes for answering my question. I really like FT myself. I am not in business so much but I think business news sources often get at a lot of interesting angles that others miss.

Absolutely, most journalists do not understand basic quantitative reasoning or economic principles. For example, I read a BBC article a while back about a sand shortage in India. It turns out the government imposed a price-ceiling, and there was no shortage at all (sand was available in the black market) - there was just a shortage at the government mandated price point. Any economics 101 student can tell you that if…

There was a (temporary) sand shortage due to a monsoon and availability does not imply sufficient supply. If there was no shortage of sand, even on the black market, the price would not have risen unless it was controlled by a cartel. Price capping is a good way to fight this kind of cartel because they were cornering the market by taking in all of the available supply and then raising the price.

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Post by ignoramceisblis »

tootie wrote: post #514
eej71 wrote: post #73

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I read the Tom Cotton op-ed and didn't find any racist element to it. It would be interesting to have you highlight which paragraph was racist in your eyes.

Maybe not racist per se, but Cotton specifically blamed antifa which was a deliberate and calculated lie intended to blame imaginary radical leftists on activities that were mostly being our by garden variety robbers unassociated with any political group. I also think that public sentiment was swayed by cable news coverage that made the looting seem far worse than it was.

"No true Scotsman." Really?

And I'm not sure how bad you think the rioting and looting was, but in Minnesota (mostly Minneapolis) alone, the economic loss is already estimated at $500 million dollars, with over one thousand businesses affected, and many were destroyed. Source: https://emmer.house.gov/_cache/files/b/c/bc0f4be4-4618-4786-...

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Post by entropea »

cm2187 wrote: post #459
jrumbut wrote: post #360

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Noam Chomsky says a lot of interesting stuff but he published his writings on 9/11 a couple months after the attacks (and he certainly has his own ideological filters). He's an essayist, a linguist, but not a news source. I'm looking for the better alternative to the NYT here. Where would you go for information if I told you about some surprising event occurred and people on Twitter are posting very different stateme…

One solution: bypass the propaganda and the editorialising, go straight to the source of information which is news agencies.

Chomsky & Herman have an entire book on why news agencies can't and don't work either. However, they clearly point out that there is also a lot of truth from those news agencies, but often not when it comes to domestic & foreign politics.
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