U.S. backs down in fight with Harvard, MIT over student visas
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Re: U.S. backs down in fight with Harvard, MIT over student visas
#2care to elucidate? Edit: the parent originally said "Your tax dollars hard at work."
Re: U.S. backs down in fight with Harvard, MIT over student visas
#3care to elucidate? Edit: the parent originally said "Your tax dollars hard at work."
care to elucidate?
Edit: the parent originally said "Your tax dollars hard at work."
Re: U.S. backs down in fight with Harvard, MIT over student visas
#4This article doesn't seem to go into much detail. Does anyone know if this applies to all colleges or just Harvard?
I'm digging around online now but my search skills are failing me
Re: U.S. backs down in fight with Harvard, MIT over student visas
#5> They cited time zone differences, unreliable or state-managed Internet and armed conflict in some of the students’ homelands.
I think it would be enlightening to see transcripts of the moments where each side said something convincing to the other.
Like...did Harvard representatives walk in and say "You know that this shit matters, right?" and then did the US representatives say "Oh shit. You're right. We never even thought of that." ? Or was there more to it?
There has to be more to it than that, right? "Struck a deal" implies that both sides gave something. So what did both sides give? Or did the US just walk back a move made without any foresight whatsoever when someone asked if they'd thought about the consequences?
Re: U.S. backs down in fight with Harvard, MIT over student visas
#6Excellent. The system worked this time. People challenged executive branch action through the judicial system and the executive branch backed down.
But this should never have been an issue to begin with, think of all the unnecessary stress and anxiety this has caused for the hundreds of thousands of international students impacted by this.
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#7Is this administration very incompetent, or very sadistic?
If they rescinded the order, means they:
1) Didn't think through the consequences, or the legality of the order.
2) They just wanted to crate some chaos, and mess up with the foreign kids, while posturing to their base
3) Force universities to stay open in the middle of the pandemic in order to help Trump's reelection bid... (not sure how breakouts of covid infections at colleges will help him)
Re: U.S. backs down in fight with Harvard, MIT over student visas
#8> They cited time zone differences, unreliable or state-managed Internet and armed conflict in some of the students’ homelands. I think it would be enlightening to see transcripts of the moments where each side said something convincing to the other. Like...did Harvard representatives walk in and say "You know that this shit matters, right?" and then did the US representatives say "Oh shit. You're right. We never eve…
It probably something like " these foreign students bring billions of dollars to US". We'd really like to keep these customers.
Re: U.S. backs down in fight with Harvard, MIT over student visas
#9> They cited time zone differences, unreliable or state-managed Internet and armed conflict in some of the students’ homelands. I think it would be enlightening to see transcripts of the moments where each side said something convincing to the other. Like...did Harvard representatives walk in and say "You know that this shit matters, right?" and then did the US representatives say "Oh shit. You're right. We never eve…
The ideal me hopes it was because someone at ICE had a humane heart. Someone who read through the outrage and uproar, internalized the problem and convinced everyone that they needed to rescind this.
But given their actions over the past 4 years and the general cruelty of Trump administration, I'm leaning towards "a deal" or rather someone in Trump admin realizing its hurting their voter base.
Re: U.S. backs down in fight with Harvard, MIT over student visas
#10Is this administration very incompetent, or very sadistic? If they rescinded the order, means they: 1) Didn't think through the consequences, or the legality of the order. 2) They just wanted to crate some chaos, and mess up with the foreign kids, while posturing to their base 3) Force universities to stay open in the middle of the pandemic in order to help Trump's reelection bid... (not sure how breakouts of covid i…
2 is the answer. They probably hardly cared whether the rule was successfully implemented. They succeeded in spreading FUD and in the future, prospective international students will think twice before deciding to study in the US. The damage is done.