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California imposing sweeping rollback of reopening plans amid case surges

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Re: California imposing sweeping rollback of reopening plans amid case surges

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They're called fines. This is a total strawman.

What happens when people don't pay the fines? I am under the impression that a warrant for arrest would be issued by a Judge. At which point, I imagine you'd go to jail when apprehended. While in jail, my understanding is that there is an increased likelihood of contracting COVID due to lack of social distancing and ability to more easily follow recommend guidelines to prevent infection. Still seeing scarecrows?

What? I was implying punitive measures in general, but the logic on COVID in jail seems to be a bad one. If you can't be in public and respect the spread of the virus, at what point do we take you out of circulation until the danger has passed?

The same argument can be made about violence. If you commit violence against another human you go to prison, but violence rates are significantly higer in prison, so are you implying we dont send them there?

Also, my topline comment is getting CRUSHED. Very surprising.

Re: California imposing sweeping rollback of reopening plans amid case surges

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They don't debunk anything. The last study you quote says "this highlights the importance of safety practices including face masks and ocular contact precautions in preventing the spread of COVID-19 disease.". Another is a meta-study of very few low quality studies. The osha guidelines are essentially just explaining that respirators are important in some settings, which nobody serious doubts. Another just determines…

How is it half related? The first study I cited states: > There is limited evidence for their effectiveness in preventing influenza virus transmission either when worn by the infected person for source control or when worn by uninfected persons to reduce exposure. I cited multiple studies. No idea where your "bunch of half related studies" is coming from. Your comment comes off as condescending.

Journal of the American Medical Association has a more recent publication on this question with current results from Covid-19 data as opposed to earlier viruses[0]. Their conclusion is the same as the consensus conclusion here on HN, that masks can play a significant role in preventing the spread of Covid-19.

[0] https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2768532

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