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Re: Grant Imahara Has Died

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I'm pretty sure that for most of these posts, this is how it goes for HN users: - no idea who this guy is, let's spend 5-10 minutes of my life to find out - hmm yeah, he did good - upvote But maybe we keep doing this for post after post, wasting time and learning stuff that won't help us achieves our actual objectives.

I didn't understand why people cried when John Lennon died; they didn't even know him, right?

Then when I heard Elliot Smith died and I had to pull over for a while and I got it.

Re: Grant Imahara Has Died

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post #23

Grant warrants a black bar.

"When someone important to the community dies, a thin black bar is added to the top of HN as a mark of respect" I agree. That follows. He may not have been a founding member of a computer based community, software, or protocol, but he certainly inspired many of us.

My guess is that the age demographic of the moderators may be more tuned to earlier CS community contributors. I often recognise the names from references in university lectures, but don't have much of a connection to them. Grant on the other hand is someone who I grew up with on my TV, inspiring me to make things.

Re: Grant Imahara Has Died

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post #198

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See with the Mythbusters (sidekicks), I can't really see them as rich; I mean I'm sure they made some decent money off of it, but I doubt it set them up for life and I wouldn't be surprised if they got screwed over in that show in favor of Jamie / Adam. I never heard why they were let go / quit the show, although I've always suspected it was because the show just wasn't as popular anymore.

Jamie Hyneman and Adam Savage have a reported net worth of about $8 million. Grant and Tory have reported net worths of $2 million. And Kari is about $1.5 million. Not bad, but both Jamie and Adam were well respected visual effects artists, builders, and model makers before Mythbusters. Mythbusters primarily shot at Jamie's shop. Grant and Tory both worked at ILM. Kari was an employee of M5, Jamie's company, when she…

That's peanuts compared to a similarly popular sitcom. I honestly expected Jamie and Adam to each have net worth in the $50-100MM range because of the syndication potential of that show, which will absolutely be on TV in 30 years. Being engineering types, maybe they all didn't really understand how to negotiate.

Given the net worth of Grant, Tori and Kari, I'm guessing they didn't have huge salaries from the show, maybe $200k/yr on average.

Re: Grant Imahara Has Died

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post #10

Wow, this cuts really deep. This makes me want to take more risk in life, to live a bit fuller and care less about money. Even at 26 I still don't have a great way to digest loss like this. The loss of someone who I genuinely looked up to and whom had significant impact on decisions I made my life. Who I thought about when I really hated myself and felt that I didn't belong in engineering at college. Especially Grant…

> I still don't have a great way to digest loss I'm about double your age and don't either. And I would be surprised if someone double my age claimed to. Live every day like it could be your last. Don't hold grudges, and tell people you love them. That's the best we can do. And it is apparently what Grant did, as his colleagues all have fond memories of him. RIP, Grant. You were cool.

> Live every day like it could be your last.

I've apparently been doing this, and you know? I'm thinking it's not going to work out.

If I followed those words to the letter, literally believing that I was going to die of a heart attack at any moment, I would go insane.

Maybe I am going insane, then.

There are a lot of things we take for granted. Sure. I'm incredibly grateful to have both my hands, because if I lost even one of them then I would be severely impacted in my work. I could end up having to take a pay cut or lose my job outright. And I might never be able to draw at the level I could accomplish by still having hands.

But I believe there's a reason we take these things for granted, with the side effect in a lot of people of never understanding their importance until it's too late. We do so because if we didn't take anything for granted, we would spend all of the time thinking about what would happen if we suddenly lost body part X or Y, and become constantly aware of every single tendon and muscle in our body and how they were still functional as opposed to dead, and never get anything done. Or at least greatly reduce our mental capacity to think about the important things we want to accomplish with those limbs instead of spending it on fruitless worry.

So I have to both understand that yes, it would be horrible if I lost my hands or ability to walk or my sight or my hearing or my life, and then I have to put it out of my mind and do what I want to do while there's still time instead of worrying about it every single day.

And even thinking like that becomes counterproductive.

I'm 24 and have had this bizzarre chest pain. I went to the doctor and the ER several times for it. Dozens of times. Nothing came of it. Not even a diagnosis of pleurisy, or a diagnosis of anything at all. It was just unresolved and I have to assume it's something in the realm of anxiety or hypochondria. And it still hurts in the most inconvenient moments and is a constant hovering reminder of my own mortality.

So now it's 3 in the morning and I need to write this thing. I know I'm only killing myself by failing to fall asleep at 3 in the morning but I don't know if I'm going to be alive tomorrow and I need to get this out there. Need someone to know that before I died that yes, I had thought enough to think of this thing, this concept that nobody else I've ever met has thought of, that nobody else will ever think and if I'm going to die tomorrow there will never be anyone else that will think of it again. So I need to do this, to write this down and move my still functioning fingers and joints over the keys to just get it out, need to finish this before I die because I don't take my own impending death for granted and I was smart enough to realize that fact, so use it. And oh, there's that other thing, that programming project I've spent years on committing to master alone and intend to spend several more years on. If I die that project will never be finished because nobody else cares enough. Sure, someone else realizing I died somehow and telling the community that I intended to finish it but never could because instead I happened to die, out of my control, could motivate someone else to take up the flag. Or not, and as a result the planet overheats 100 years from now without that one thing I wanted to accomplish with my life ever becoming reality. What could possibly be worse for the psyche of human accomplishment, of redefining the status quo, when you're trapped in this box of failing hearts and endless anxiety and just couldn't do it so that's just the end of it all? That's the end of the dream? What else is there to lose?

No.

Not going to happen.

So now it's seven in the morning.

And I've failed to get any sleep and failed to eat anything so I'm starving and physically exhausted and my heart is racing and it feels like it's being shoved against my lungs and ribcage and I feel that much closer to dying than before.

Then I try and fail to go to sleep since apparently I'm not mentally exhausted yet and go on HN and discover this person formerly a part of Mythbusters is dead of a brain aneurysm at 49, and then I remember that wowaka, the world famous Vocaloid artist, probably one of if not the single most popular Vocaloid artist of all time, died of heart failure at the age of 31, 31 years old for fuck's sake and that means I only have 7 years left if it really comes to the worst possible scenario with my health that me never getting any sleep and worrying about dying all of the time every single day of the past year is not doing any favors. And now it feels like my heart is going to explode inside my chest from remembering this, remembering wowaka and Rolling Girl and dying of heart failure in 7 years at the worst possible time because this important person died tragically and everyone considers 49 to be young, 49 is young, right, and my heart hurts so much it feels like it's being squeezed with a belt, and

You get the idea.

Re: Grant Imahara Has Died

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https://mobile.twitter.com/grantimahara/status/1243234010215... This was his workbench. In many ways, it doesn't look much different than mine. Grant was an electrical engineer, like me. Gone suddenly before 50 from an aneurysm. I can't help but wonder if it looks like that now, filled with unfinished projects. Projects that only he understood the complexity of, and few would have the hope of picking up where he fini…

> Barely a bitter or angry tweet. None of the toxic outrage so prevalent in society today.

It’s pretty rare you can find celebrities who are balanced, genuine and avoid taking to outrage social media. I sadly had to unfollow Adam Savage years back because his negative tone and constant angry political outlook. That was not the content I was looking for when I originally followed him.

Re: Grant Imahara Has Died

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post #10

Wow, this cuts really deep. This makes me want to take more risk in life, to live a bit fuller and care less about money. Even at 26 I still don't have a great way to digest loss like this. The loss of someone who I genuinely looked up to and whom had significant impact on decisions I made my life. Who I thought about when I really hated myself and felt that I didn't belong in engineering at college. Especially Grant…

you aren't the only one who feels this way :(

Re: Grant Imahara Has Died

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post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have an idea of some of the downsides? (Imagining cost - but also radiation?)

As a sibling response says, false positives are a big issue. Understanding risks is another issue (consider if you're told you have an aneurysm with annual risk of spontaneous rupture at 0.1% versus an operation with 10% mortality rate.. do you choose the op?) In some people, indulging anxieties around health can be problematic in itself or have mental health repercussions. Anxieties could also be aroused by benign f…

Oh man, this is me right now! I had some minor but constant back pain and got an MRI. They found a bulging disc which had shrunk (a good thing) since the last MRI 5 years ago (when I presumably injured the disc, though there's no way to even know that for sure). I CANNOT stop worrying about it. Ever since the doctor labeled it, even though she says it's not cause for concern, I cannot stop worrying about it and imagining the worst; it bursting and leaving me in agony for the rest of my life. Fun times.... The best part, bulges are not even necessarily abnormal, I know all this and yet, cannot let it go.

Re: Grant Imahara Has Died

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post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've seen multiple reports of severe blood clotting and strokes in COVID patients, including those who are otherwise asymptomatic, including people under 50.[1] Given that there is a pandemic going around with similar symptoms, I don't think this is a huge leap (but again, I am not saying it's anywhere near certain either). I probably should have used this source in my original comment, I just grabbed the first link…

That COVID wasn't mentioned by reports is itself information. I believe that had Grant tested positive for COVID, the reports would have mentioned that. The fact that it isn't mentioned, makes it unlikely that it is COVID related.

There are still testing backlogs for COVID, it can take multiple days to get results (assuming the doctors decide to run the test). Link #2 also says: It’s hard to know for sure [if clotting is a major factor], because the clotting problem is apt to go undetected.

Since most people think of COVID as a respiratory disease and the clotting symptoms aren't as well publicized, doctors may not always call for the test when respiratory symptoms aren't present.

Re: Grant Imahara Has Died

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post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jamie Hyneman and Adam Savage have a reported net worth of about $8 million. Grant and Tory have reported net worths of $2 million. And Kari is about $1.5 million. Not bad, but both Jamie and Adam were well respected visual effects artists, builders, and model makers before Mythbusters. Mythbusters primarily shot at Jamie's shop. Grant and Tory both worked at ILM. Kari was an employee of M5, Jamie's company, when she…

That's peanuts compared to a similarly popular sitcom. I honestly expected Jamie and Adam to each have net worth in the $50-100MM range because of the syndication potential of that show, which will absolutely be on TV in 30 years. Being engineering types, maybe they all didn't really understand how to negotiate. Given the net worth of Grant, Tori and Kari, I'm guessing they didn't have huge salaries from the show, ma…

> That's peanuts compared to a similarly popular sitcom.

Is it actually? Do you have particular sitcom(s) in mind? I tried to look for this myself and couldn't find much (beyond ratings for anything beyond the top ~20 highest rated shows in a given year).

I know very little about this, but I'm a little skeptical because I feel people tend to vastly overestimate how much money the average person they see on TV makes. The stories of the outliers (like the Friends stars making $1M per episode) really skew the perceptions of this -- the vast majority of professional actors (if not regular TV actors, but maybe even then) make less than the median Bay Area software engineer. A salary on the order of $200K a year for a non-headliner regular actor in a sitcom with viewership around 1M people (which I think is more than a typical episode of Mythbusters would've gotten) doesn't sound that far out of the ballpark to me.

Re: Grant Imahara Has Died

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This is not relevant, but this strikes me as a big cultural difference between wherever you're from and where I'm from. Here, the first thought to complete that sentence would be "he strikes me as someone you'd be friends with". I wonder why "hang out at work" was the first thing that came to mind for you. Here we don't tend to think in terms of "people we hang out with after work", we generally have "friends we firs…

I also wonder how much of it is "nerd" adjacent. I came to software development late in my career (I was a lawyer and a health care administrator first). I work for a good company and I like a lot of my coworkers. I would never want to be friends with them. That's a barrier I'm not very comfortable crossing. When I worked in a hospital, when I was a lawyer, it was the same. Good coworkers, no desire to keep seeing th…

There are those nerds who grew up bullied, ostracized by everybody. Where the ones at work remind us of those bullies. Where there's some common thread between "engineers, developers, and data scientists" that respects hard work, and rejects blowhards. Something along this crowd that's compelled to accept the meekest and quietest of all, and as equals. The font this comment is written in as the same as from `pg` or `dang`. There's a broader, quieter culture that thrives on listening to the substance of people.

And then are those "nerds" who did the bullying.

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