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Re: Resignation Letter

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Please don't. I realize the topic is inflammatory but this sort of generic ideological rant is particularly off topic on HN. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

Sorry, dang. I'll leave it at that. I understand it's inflammatory. I do however believe it's very relevant to the ongoing cancel and cultural warfare.

Re: Resignation Letter

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The "orthodoxy" the author writes about is real. I am a skeptic and cynic by nature. In my experience "common wisdom" is usually anything but. In software and technology I've found when you eschew dogma and "best practices" you more often than not get better results. But, in 2020 you cannot question or be skeptical of the "progressive" agenda. Merely hinting that you are not fully bought in will get you labeled as a…

I don't read the WP nor the NYT, do you have an example of an article in either of them that is a caricature of leftist news?

My main news source (besides HN) is the Dutch public news, which is described as left-wing, but to me it feels very objective. I find it hard to judge if that means I'm just leftist and don't see what they're leaving out, or that the right is in an alternative reality.

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It always amazes me when the people who champion "the centrality of the free exchange of ideas to a democratic society" will also turn around and say something like their political beliefs being mocking by coworkers is "unlawful discrimination". She doesn't want free speech. She wants consequence free speech. She wants her detractors silenced by the law. What a hypocrite.

I think you're right, and it all boils down to this: the left is growing in the United States, and powerful people with large platforms such as Bari Weiss do not like it. Yet it's ironic because left-wing views were consistently canceled. Even being against the Iraq War in 2003 was considered treasonous for a while.

I don't remember a single example of anybody fired from their job for opposing Iraq War (I'm not talking about top politicians, of course). I don't remember anybody fired from any papers for allowing an article opposing Iraq War to be printed. I don't remember people being beaten up in the street by rampaging mobs for opposing Iraq War. Can you provide any example of that happening?

Re: Resignation Letter

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post #211

The "orthodoxy" the author writes about is real. I am a skeptic and cynic by nature. In my experience "common wisdom" is usually anything but. In software and technology I've found when you eschew dogma and "best practices" you more often than not get better results. But, in 2020 you cannot question or be skeptical of the "progressive" agenda. Merely hinting that you are not fully bought in will get you labeled as a…

> But, in 2020 you cannot question or be skeptical of the "progressive" agenda. Merely hinting that you are not fully bought in will get you labeled as a racist, or even worse these days, a "Conservative".

Is it really the case? Or is it a perception you have? I've become less and less liberal the past three months, for multiple reasons, and at least in my liberal bubble, i did not face any backlash.

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There's several layers of irony here, chief of which Bari Weiss headed a very vocal campaign to fire anyone at Colombia who didn't exist on the far-right on Israel/Palestine - and of course, falsely painted several professors as racist and anti-Semitic: https://theintercept.com/2018/03/08/the-nyts-bari-weiss-fals...

That's debatable. Consider this quote:

> It’s worth repeating something else Bari Weiss said [in my April 13-19 column, “Columbia Whitewashes“]: “We are doing this because we believe in the rights of all Columbia students to dissent without fear of abuse. Yes, this means for conservative students as well as left-wingers, for Zionists as well as anti-Zionists. . . . Criticizing professors does not violate their academic freedom or stifle debate. It only adds to it.”[1]

That doesn't sound like someone trying to get people fired.

[1] https://www.villagevoice.com/2005/04/19/columbia-the-awakeni...

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"Instead, a new consensus has emerged in the press, but perhaps especially at [the New York Times]: that truth isn't a process of collective discovery, but an orthodoxy already known to an enlightened few whose job is to inform everyone else." This is a very key point, and what are the consequences of "informing everyone of a truth" that doesn't accurately reflect -- of even contradicts! -- reality? Harm to the reput…

“Especially at the New York Times” ??? Seriously? How about Fox News. NYT May have some issues but they are still 1000X more accurate and honest than conservative media like Fox News. Media like Fox News is destroying America. That’s the real danger.

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Re: Resignation Letter

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought that was clear from my previous comment, so I'm not sure how much clearer I can make it. She used the term "unlawful discrimination". She wants this behavior to stop. She is calling this behavior out as illegal. I don't think it is a leap to think that she wants this behavior that she is against and called illegal to be stopped by the law.

I think she wants her previous employer to protect her rights and not be subject to a hostile work environment, no?

I think she wants a culture where one can honestly disagree and debate on important questions without being called a Nazi and mobbed into oblivion. Unfortunately, the modern left is not that culture and working for a large leftist newspaper is not where you can find that culture.

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post #345
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"Instead, a new consensus has emerged in the press, but perhaps especially at [the New York Times]: that truth isn't a process of collective discovery, but an orthodoxy already known to an enlightened few whose job is to inform everyone else." This is a very key point, and what are the consequences of "informing everyone of a truth" that doesn't accurately reflect -- of even contradicts! -- reality? Harm to the reput…

“Especially at the New York Times” ??? Seriously? How about Fox News. NYT May have some issues but they are still 1000X more accurate and honest than conservative media like Fox News. Media like Fox News is destroying America. That’s the real danger.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

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Never thought a lazy appropriation of my Soviet high school history textbook can be labeled a "philosophical idea".

I'm confused: are you saying Marx wasn't a philosopher? Like, disagree with him all you want, but claiming what he did wasn't philosophy is like, a bit extreme.

Marx wasn't around to write history books about subjects like say Zionism

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They have 1,600 journalists last year that were sent to 150 countries [1]. What other organization is doing anything like that effort to gather facts around the world? Who is doing more collective discovery (and making it accessible to the public at a price an average person can afford)? I can only think of a handful of organizations that are serious candidates (Reuters? The BBC? Wikipedia?). Weird puff pieces, drama…

Even ten times that many journalists will do you no good, when what they report is filtered according to some pre-concieved view of the world (or the journalists themselves are only hired if they share that view: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nBx-37c3c8 ).

Noam Chomsky says a lot of interesting stuff but he published his writings on 9/11 a couple months after the attacks (and he certainly has his own ideological filters). He's an essayist, a linguist, but not a news source. I'm looking for the better alternative to the NYT here.

Where would you go for information if I told you about some surprising event occurred and people on Twitter are posting very different statements of fact?

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