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Verizon has turned to Google Cloud’s Contact Center AI to automate phone calls

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Re: Verizon has turned to Google Cloud’s Contact Center AI to automate phone calls

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I'm sure the telcos have statistics to validate this system, but it seems to completely oppose my own personal experiences. I have never phoned customer support to: - View my account details (available online) - Find out about new plans and promos (available online) - Pay my bill (available online) - etc (available online) I have only phoned customer support to: - Negotiate a better rate (requires a human) - Argue ab…

>(available online)

Try loading a modern web form over 3g. Try loading a modern web form on an Android <6.x device. Try loading a web form on a feature phone. Try loading a modern web form in BFE over a landline. For any transaction where you don't need a human and it's painful to use the internet walking through phone menus is a pretty good alternative. They only make it painful to speak to a human. For routine transactions they're basically like using a slow CLI where they give you the help without you asking.

Re: Verizon has turned to Google Cloud’s Contact Center AI to automate phone calls

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I noticed these systems typically immediately take you to a human if you start screaming swear words and overall sound enraged.

Try it next time! "____! Give me a _______ human you ____! ____!!" This is often followed by a prompt click of the line transferring and sure enough you're in the queue for a real person.

Of course, remember to do the opposite with the person. Be polite and respectful with the person on the other end of the line. And I've found, they often can really help you!

Re: Verizon has turned to Google Cloud’s Contact Center AI to automate phone calls

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I've worked for large and small companies, and I've never understood the outsourcing/robot-ting of your phone customer care people. First and sometimes last line of defense in gaining or keeping a customer. Best Buy was probably the most egregious example of this.

Having worked in a call center for Internet, Telephone, and TV about 3 years ago. In my experience most people have the same stupid question.

1. Do I plug in the green wire in the green port or in the red port (They call before they have even tried to connect things).

2. My TV isn't working when they haven't pressed "Source".

3. Something is wrong, restart router.

4. My WiFi is slow when they have one router for 200 m2 in a house of concrete.

5. A few % of the costumers make up the majority of the calls because of how they are.

Re: Verizon has turned to Google Cloud’s Contact Center AI to automate phone calls

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post #12

I'm sure the telcos have statistics to validate this system, but it seems to completely oppose my own personal experiences. I have never phoned customer support to: - View my account details (available online) - Find out about new plans and promos (available online) - Pay my bill (available online) - etc (available online) I have only phoned customer support to: - Negotiate a better rate (requires a human) - Argue ab…

Every thing you listed that requires a human also results in them making less money. It's no coincidence that these systems make getting to those points harder and harder.

Keeping a customer by giving them a discount actually earns you more money that losing a customer by being difficult.

Re: Verizon has turned to Google Cloud’s Contact Center AI to automate phone calls

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We're going to need a new system. The profit motive of corporations is directly in conflict with the duty to social good. As we proceed into an automated future, our labor protections are pricing humans out of the market. A great deal of unnecessary evil and pain worldwide results from this conflict. At the scale of corporations such as Verizon, even a cost efficiency of one cent per transaction can translate into te…

But say that we are pragmatic and realistic.

What kind of democratic solution do you see us humans make in the first three decades of this problem (when it really starts to hurt a lot of people)?

And what kind of realistic solution would be better?

I ask because I don't see many good solutions in my life time that will solve any of this. As you can guess I'm skeptical of UBI where people can live comfortably in the first decades due to culture and I'm from northern Europe.

Re: Verizon has turned to Google Cloud’s Contact Center AI to automate phone calls

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every thing you listed that requires a human also results in them making less money. It's no coincidence that these systems make getting to those points harder and harder.

Keeping a customer by giving them a discount actually earns you more money that losing a customer by being difficult.

But you have to talk to a human to cancel too! Checkmate!

Re: Verizon has turned to Google Cloud’s Contact Center AI to automate phone calls

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The problems plaguing customer support today are not technical in nature and AI will not fix them.

> You demand a human. The human is told what to say by the bot

This has always been something I've never understood about customer support. In particular, chat support is bad about this, but I've had it happen on phone support too. Prior to getting connected to the human, the bot wants to take down a short description of your problem. That's fine, but the conversation often goes like this:

> Bot: Please write a short description of your problem.

> Me: Problem I am having.

> Bot: One moment while I connect you.

> (a small eternity later)

> Support: Hi. How can I help you?"

> Ctrl+C problem, Ctrl+V problem*

> Support: I see you are . Is that correct?

> Me: :shrug:^W Yes.

… like, why did I ever type that description? Here, a computer (I don't even know if it qualifies as "AI" given how rudimentary of a task it is performing) appears to have failed at the simplest of tasks. And this happens all. the. time.

Phone bots will often "authenticate" me with various credentials, and then connect me to a human who will immediately authenticate me with the same credentials. Whose time was saved?

Re: Verizon has turned to Google Cloud’s Contact Center AI to automate phone calls

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I'm sure the telcos have statistics to validate this system, but it seems to completely oppose my own personal experiences. I have never phoned customer support to: - View my account details (available online) - Find out about new plans and promos (available online) - Pay my bill (available online) - etc (available online) I have only phoned customer support to: - Negotiate a better rate (requires a human) - Argue ab…

I was trying to reach USPS about a subtle forwarding issue that takes someone knowledgeable to clear up and the system kept nagging me about online services and long spiels about the covid. Took a lot of menus and "are you really really really sure you want to talk to someone on the phone, for real?? (you horrible person you)" verifications to finally get to scheduling a call-back.

Re: Verizon has turned to Google Cloud’s Contact Center AI to automate phone calls

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The problems plaguing customer support today are not technical in nature and AI will not fix them. > You demand a human. The human is told what to say by the bot This has always been something I've never understood about customer support. In particular, chat support is bad about this, but I've had it happen on phone support too. Prior to getting connected to the human, the bot wants to take down a short description o…

A support agents time was saved because every annoying step like that causes x% of people to just give up.

Re: Verizon has turned to Google Cloud’s Contact Center AI to automate phone calls

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Except these automated systems never have the power to actually resolve problems. If they did, then someone would exploit them for gain.

I had a problem last year with a major credit card processing bank, where they decided I needed a new card/number, but apparently were unable to actually ship said card to me for an extended period of time. During which, I was locked out of the online/automated phone/etc system because I didn't know the new card/account number (and couldn't activate it). They literally wouldn't take my money, and it took mashing the '0' button in the automated system, which kept requesting my account number, for about 20 minutes before it decided I was allowed to speak to a human. That human located literally on the other side of the planet from me, also didn't know what to do about it, and it took being escalated through three levels of customer support before I got to someone who mysteriously had the power to ship me a new card within a day or two so I could pay my bill, activate the new card before traveling overseas/etc a week later. Thats hardly the first time I've had a problem with some bank/etc making some sweeping/automated change and not thinking through all the problems it will cause to various "odd ball" customers.

Anway, automated customer support is a joke unless your just calling to check your balance or some other activity you should be able to pull off with the web page/etc. At the end of the day, you need people who can understand the system, and solve the problems created by unthinking middle managers making broad decisions.

Companies that are known to have good customer support are the ones that have given their first line support people the ability to make financial decisions that could hurt the company if misused. You simply can't (yet) do that with an automated system.

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