Earlier quoted context omitted.
Since she hasn't filed discrimination lawsuit, I read it as mocking the victim culture that prevades the others.
> mocking the victim culture So, intimidation?
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#522 quick comments: 1. Team-sports politics and Identity politics are a scourge and cancer used for fundraising, and I despise them. 2. Conservatives have been poisoning public discourse since at least the 1980's with hate and fear (see Rush Limbaugh), and I despise that tactic. I'm sure you can find instances where Liberals have done the same, but it would be VERY hard to convince me that they have done it at the same…
>it would be VERY hard to convince me that they have done it at the same level of concerted effort.
What exactly would it take to convince you of that?
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#53nothing of value was lost
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#54There's several layers of irony here, chief of which Bari Weiss headed a very vocal campaign to fire anyone at Colombia who didn't exist on the far-right on Israel/Palestine - and of course, falsely painted several professors as racist and anti-Semitic: https://theintercept.com/2018/03/08/the-nyts-bari-weiss-fals...
Hilarious that the top comment exemplifies the problem. It seems few today are still able to engage with ideas directly, always trying to filter them through some, any, lens to discredit the ones they don’t like. Sometimes it’s attacking the speaker, sometimes their associations, sometimes the tweets they have “liked.” If all else fails, seek out language in the text itself for unfalsifiable “dog whistles” that allow…
It's truly telling that the most upvoted comment is one working to discredit the writer, rather than taking what's being said at face value.
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#55"And so self-censorship has become the norm." This might be the most ironic and most dangerous effect of this "right think" regime: that the free expression and exchange of ideas is thwarted in advance because one doesn't want to deal with drama, fight, or insults that come with saying something not in lock-step with the prevailing group-think. This blunts the curiosity of the intellect and silences all true disciple…
You're assuming "both sides" have an equally valid point of view. Tom Cotton's racist op-ed and COVID denialism are two current examples where one side is definitely wrong. Bari believes there shouldn't be consequences for saying dangerously wrong things.
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#56There's several layers of irony here, chief of which Bari Weiss headed a very vocal campaign to fire anyone at Colombia who didn't exist on the far-right on Israel/Palestine - and of course, falsely painted several professors as racist and anti-Semitic: https://theintercept.com/2018/03/08/the-nyts-bari-weiss-fals...
Hilarious that the top comment exemplifies the problem. It seems few today are still able to engage with ideas directly, always trying to filter them through some, any, lens to discredit the ones they don’t like. Sometimes it’s attacking the speaker, sometimes their associations, sometimes the tweets they have “liked.” If all else fails, seek out language in the text itself for unfalsifiable “dog whistles” that allow…
Eh, nobody likes a hypocrite.
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#57I hesitated before upvoting the OP, and even considered flagging it, given its controversial author (with whom I disagree) and its potential to fuel ideologically driven, opinionated arguments (in which no one wins and everyone loses). However, I decided to upvote the OP because I feel it is, in the end, about a topic that is of utmost interest of -- and widely considered important by -- most people on HN: free speec…
> widely considered important by -- everyone
I'm not sure this is nearly as universal as you think, even on here.
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#58Great summary of everything I feel that has gone wrong at the NYT, cancel culture, and the left-wing gladiatorial combat that is trying to root out any hint of disagreement with orthodoxy now that all center and conservatives have been purged. I highly recommend reading this. If you want more opinions from progressives that feel cancel culture has stifled free speech, is illiberal, and also illogical, listen to the B…
Bari Weiss has been a proponent of censorship and "cancel culture" since her time as a student. She's a hypocrite.
I agree she was a proponent but the cancel culture has finally come for her and she has figured it out, so she isn't wrong here. It will be interesting to see if anything changes later
The most important thing is how this affects your perception of the nyt
Edit hacker News wont let me post anymore right now but the question is if she is right here or not. She doesn't owe you anything just like you dont owe her anything.
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#59Speaking as someone who absorbs American media externally, there does seem to be a disconnect looking in. About 40% of the America seems to still support Donald Trump, under most polls. It certainly isn't true that 40% of the media supports Donald Trump. As an external viewer, it's easy to imagine no-one was ever going to vote for Donald Trump, no-one ever supported him, and no-one supports him today, but that's clea…
> About 40% of the America seems to still support Donald Trump, under most polls. It certainly isn't true that 40% of the media supports Donald Trump. As an external viewer, it's easy to imagine no-one was ever going to vote for Donald Trump, no-one ever supported him, and no-one supports him today, but that's clearly not reality.
You seem to be missing a substantial portion of American media. You just gotta know where to look. There are far more outlets than the ones that get shared on HN, and something like talk radio is gonna be a complete black hole to the group here.
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#60There's several layers of irony here, chief of which Bari Weiss headed a very vocal campaign to fire anyone at Colombia who didn't exist on the far-right on Israel/Palestine - and of course, falsely painted several professors as racist and anti-Semitic: https://theintercept.com/2018/03/08/the-nyts-bari-weiss-fals...
Hilarious that the top comment exemplifies the problem. It seems few today are still able to engage with ideas directly, always trying to filter them through some, any, lens to discredit the ones they don’t like. Sometimes it’s attacking the speaker, sometimes their associations, sometimes the tweets they have “liked.” If all else fails, seek out language in the text itself for unfalsifiable “dog whistles” that allow…
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