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Poland puts computer game “This War of Mine” on school reading list

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Re: Poland puts computer game “This War of Mine” on school reading list

#61

They should put Deus Ex on the list

I remember I gained a ton of interest in medieval Japan from Shogun Total War. No clue how historically accurate it was, but there are a lot of ‘period piece’ games that could really set the tone for a history course (Rome Total War, there’s a bunch for WW2, etc).

Very underutilized.

Re: Poland puts computer game “This War of Mine” on school reading list

#62

They should put Deus Ex on the list

DX is one of the few games I've played through more than once. DX is a lot longer, and is fundamentally a FPS. It's a work of art of gaming, and were this a school on game design, I would absolutely agree with you.

TWOM is a work of literary art. If you haven't played it, do so, but be warned: it hits hard, emotionally.

Re: Poland puts computer game “This War of Mine” on school reading list

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Thats something else, i never saw a Game on a READING-list. And my teacher never told, so now you go to that Apple Lc2 and play some FlightSimulator, 2 good landings or you have to-do it as homework.

That's just semantics, but it certainly happened. It may have been more informal when I was growing up, but you still had to play games like "Midnight Rescue" as part of class work. I do think it is silly to put it on a 'Reading List'. I prefer to create a new category.

> I prefer to create a new category.

What else would you put in this category?

Re: Poland puts computer game “This War of Mine” on school reading list

#65
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Not to start a flame war over book choice but forcing kids to read the Bible, Homer's Iliad, and Shakespeare are probably what is causing such marked disinterest in the first place. There are so many interesting and valuable works of writing, fiction and non-fiction, that can captivate and entertain modern children that aren't unapproachable tomes translated from ancient, dead languages, or written in Iambic Pentamet…

The Bible, Homer's Iliad, and Shakespeare's works are some of the most important ones in Western culture. I wouldn't say they're unapproachable at all. They may be more difficult to read than a modern teen fiction novel, but they contain archetypes and language patterns that were foundational for works that came afterward. Thinking about it now, Beowulf should be added to this list. That's another great way to teach…

> but they contain archetypes and language patterns that were foundational for works that came afterward.

So what? Other works lack these archetypes? No, they don't. Literature at school isn't supposed to be courses on comparative linguistics and theory of literature. A short intro is enough. Then move on to modern works.

Bible is better suited to history lessons on history of religion alongside other religions.

Re: Poland puts computer game “This War of Mine” on school reading list

#66
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Here is the list of school districts in CA alone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_districts_in_Ca... Just because you never experienced Christian propaganda in your public school district in your state doesn't mean it doesn't happen. If your town is mostly religious, mostly Christian, and the oversight mechanisms for something like this happen require a complaint to be filed, who is going to complain? Sa…

> If your town is mostly religious, mostly Christian, and the oversight mechanisms for something like this happen require a complaint to be filed, who is going to complain? As is the case in many of the landmark freedom-from-religion-in-schools cases, Christians. See, the thing is, America (and even most—but not all, sure—small towns in America) have lots of different flavors of Christianity, and they don't agree on…

You're missing my point. Generalizing any one instance of one school district and one Christian sect's objection to their curriculum to all of the US just doesn't work. While I was of school age it was still the TX state curriculum to teach creationism as equally scientific as evolution. Saying "It hasn't happened in [this place] or in [my town]" is not evidence that it happens nowhere.

Re: Poland puts computer game “This War of Mine” on school reading list

#67
This is amazing. There are other games of this quality and artistry, but IMO no other games with the kind of impact TWOM has. There's something special that happens when you play TWOM that isn't possible in other mediums. It manages to actually create circumstances where you feel like you're making hard choices.

IMO, only two other games accomplish something comparable. Portal (as a masterpiece of gaming in every respect) and Stanley Parable (as being another masterpiece that has a "message" inexpressible in any other medium).

If you'd add to that list, I could do with more maximum quality games to have played ;)

Re: Poland puts computer game “This War of Mine” on school reading list

#68

I am surprised why it took school system so long. And despite the apparent collapse of traditional education, it is surprisingly resistant to change. I would also include some works from Demoscene, some newer electronic music (at least from the 80s :)).

The Demoscene definitely needs some artistic recognition, but maybe not in the form of being put on the reading list ;)

Re: Poland puts computer game “This War of Mine” on school reading list

#69
post #10

Interesting move. Sadly kids nowadays (at least in Poland, where I live) don't like reading books and tend to skip even very important titles. This may be a good way to bring some interest in the history via a genuinely entertaining medium.

In large part this is caused by the education system. Instead of promoting thoughtful reading, discovery and broadening horizons, it forces kids to read through literature classics that are boring and completely unrelatable to modern kids.

Re: Poland puts computer game “This War of Mine” on school reading list

#70
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Interesting move. Sadly kids nowadays (at least in Poland, where I live) don't like reading books and tend to skip even very important titles. This may be a good way to bring some interest in the history via a genuinely entertaining medium.

>Sadly kids nowadays (at least in Poland, where I live) don't like reading books and tend to skip even very important titles.

I'm fairly confident this has been a staple throughout most of the world, and, if I had to wager, time.

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