IP being dynamic, I don't really know how this affect end users. The list for my (current) IP shows a bunch of stuff I never downloaded.
I Know What You Download on BitTorrent
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Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent
#682Earlier quoted context omitted.
The number of CEOs who think printing money is a good idea might make you wonder if they even know anything about money. Polluting air costs less money why not do it ? 80% movies don't need the 100 million dollar budget and I'm pretty sure Johnny Deepp would be happy to release Edward Scissorhands to the public domain. Most big movies make their money by single day screenings and releasing movies at different dates i…
I don’t really know what you’re arguing, you seem to be making a few assumptions about my position, which are probably wrong. In terms of $100M movies, I think they almost all suck, but that was the value you suggested. I’d say that no movie needs to cost $100M! But plenty of movies cost $10M. If it takes 100 people a year to make a movie then you can easily spend $10M on salaries and overheads alone. > Interestingly…
> So what ?
I too can ignore every big budget predictable cliche and say so what. Lets ignore the successes of alternatives.
Is Kanye West and Britney Spears the best you can do with millions of dollars ? I'll stick to punk and EDM ... no thanks.
> I’m a huge fan of indy media but, because of that, I pay for it, and I don’t like it when people freeload.
Is copyright / patents the only way to finance and get money back ?
Absolutely not. Thats the argument I am making.
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#683Earlier quoted context omitted.
Philosophical line in the sand. Media companies have abused laws and rights that are supposed to encourage and enrich society not diminish and stifle it. They're beyond redemption at this point. The whole industry can burn at the stake for all I care. Netflix included. (Why does it matter what country I live in again? Why do you remove access to certain shows st random?) The only media I pay for willingly is books an…
This just reads like a list of excuses. You could swap “piracy” with “selling drugs” and “entertainment industry” with “big pharma” and it would read just fine.
And it probably wouldnt be all that wrong. All that tells you is that the same problem exists in multiple industries and sections of society. General patent law is another one.
The real solution isnt ignoring copyright like i do. That is just all i have available.
The real solution is to reign in the timeframes copyright and patent law lasts for.
Have it only long enough to recoup costs of development and provide some level of capital for the next innovation. Not an indefinite stranglehold on information for the benefit of only a few.
The thing people seem to argue is that these businesses have a free right to profit off of society. They dont, society should demand something in return.
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#684Earlier quoted context omitted.
My university did ban p2p, no matter the content. Officially for upload bandwidth savings.
Mine did too. Though oddly the wifi in the classrooms was fair-game, but this was before most people had laptops, and even fewer ones that could last more than 2 hours without charging. I remember downloading some content over IRC to share on the campus network because I knew how to use it and it was slow, but not blocked.
My university had bad wifi and I think 50mb drive space per student. I ended up plugging in my laptop directly and spoofing a whitelisted IP/MAC combination (the PCi just plugged out) for several assignments.
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#685Earlier quoted context omitted.
The only moral problem I have in your anecdote is the lying about it. With every fibre of my being, I could not care less about torrenting game of thrones .
At some point I find it hard to draw a distinction between a library and a torrent. Gotta to avoid legal trouble, but from a moral standpoint outlawing torrents is like outlawing the library.
And making a copy of something that hundreds to even thousands of people worked hundreds of thousands of hours on just because you can also has some negative morals do it.
I don't know what analogy to make since all the physical ones fail. Maybe it's like hiring someone for a service and not paying. You get a haircut and don't pay. You hire a lawyer and don't pay. You have an accountant and don't pay. In all of those cases the only thing lost is the time the hair stylist, lawyer, accountant, movie maker spent. Yet we generally consider the first 3 morally wrong. Why not the 4th. That you can copy without getting caught doesn't mean there are zero moral implications.
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#686Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because, quite frankly, parts identified by hashes is not all they see. If you're monitoring and logging the traffic then it's trivial to not only determine the filename of a bittorrent download, but also everything you need to connect to the torrent yourself and download it to verify that it's what the filename says, if that's what you wish to do. And, personally, I'd expect someone to at least check the filename be…
The torrent file is downloaded over a secure connection that you can’t monitor. Can you please tell me which messages in the BitTorrent protocol contain the filenames?
Can't you just look up the hash on DHT? Since hash is the only mandatory field in a Magnet URI.
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The problem here is not recognizing that the piracy was actually the problem. In what way was it forgivable? Because everybody does it, that makes it okie dokie? Because you don't have a Netflix account? If everyone treated piracy as theft (it is) then no one would have to waste their time investigating it because the collective will would exist to prevent it.
> If everyone treated piracy as theft (it is) Then everybody would be as wrong as you. You can repeat this as much as you like, but it is simply false. Legally speaking: copyright infringement is an offense distinct from theft. Speaking from reality: copyright infringement does not deprive the holder of the right of their property. Speaking ethically: Copyright infringement is a violation of a particular commercial m…
piracy is taking someone else's work without compensating them for that work. There are lots of forms of work that require nothing but time. Programming is one, lawyer work, accounting work, digital design work, planning, managing. I'm sure we could list 100s more.
I don't know what the legal term is for hiring someone for a service and then not paying them for that service.
My first search came up with "theft of services"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theft_of_services
If you want the your tax forms filled out you pay the tax accountant. If you want the movie you pay the creators of the movie.
I know there is a difference in the the movie already exits but is that an important difference? When I arrive at the tax accountant's office to collect my tax forms they already exist. Maybe I should just make a copy for free and leave and say "copies are free so it's not theft"?
It's not the document that was stolen, it was the value of their time.
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#688This kind of thing is already done heavily by content rights-holders. If you torrent movies or games in Canada without a VPN, you will get nastygrams in your email from the rights-holders via your ISP. They're legally required to do so AFAIK, because even consumer-oriented ISPs that are very privacy driven also forward on those letters. Apparently if you don't reply to those emails you're fine, because they can't esc…
We should really stop calling copyright infringement 'piracy'. Piracy is a violent penal crime which results in a theft of property by the use of physical force / weapons. Accepting this label helps media conglomerates distort the public perception of the issue into their favor.
If you don’t want to use the term “piracy”, the best alternative I’ve heard is “bootlegging”. Credit for the idea goes to the author of https://daringfireball.net/, who suggested that term way back in 2009.
Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent
#689An intern once thought it was a good idea to torrent a couple of Game of Thrones episodes using my startup's Digital Ocean box. We found out after Digital Ocean forwarded us an email from HBO (who presumably tracked Digital Ocean down via the IP) that we were engaging in piracy. We sent an email to everyone with access, saying whoever was doing it to stop. Then we got a second email (a final warning). Everyone denied…
My previous employer had a strongly worded email and CEO statement sent out after they were sent a notice of over 100 company IPs (out of 15000 employees) torrenting the game of thrones finale to basically tell people "Hey, don't do that, we do business with many of those companies".
You mean:
"Hey, don't do that, we do business with many of those companies, and we don't want them to associate us with the shoddy work on the later seasons of the series, certainly not that ridiculous ham-fisted finale".
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#690This is cooler than the other