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Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

marvelous wrote: post #313
Symbiote wrote: post #232

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was "caught" by some monitoring system sharing Knoppix on a machine in the CS lab at university. I'd forgotten about it, and it had been running for months. One of the helpdesk staff told me that it had been noticed, since the bandwidth to that machine was very high, but he unofficially liked the idea of the university being top of the seeding table, so I should leave it running :-D [1] http://torrent.unix-ag.uni-k…

My university did ban p2p, no matter the content. Officially for upload bandwidth savings.

I don't blame them, it can end up costing a lot of the available bandwidth, and it's a finite resource.

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

sixothree wrote: post #324
debacle wrote: post #212

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The flip side: When I was an intern I once had four people arrive at my desk (including an HR lawyer) for torrenting ubuntu server. Thankfully I shared a cube wall with someone smart enough to realize the confusion, and explain me out of being walked out. They were monitoring for torrent traffic, but weren't paying attention to what was being torrented. Apparently a company-wide warning had gone out the week before I…

Not long after we started WFH I needed to share a pre-configured VM with a coworker. We tried all sorts of stuff and finally just decided to torrent it. Zipped it up tight with a password and private torrented it overnight. Next morning we were up and running.

Does Syncthing work over the internet, or would you still need to set up a direct line with your colleague?

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Post by 6AA4FD »

Aeolun wrote: post #554
joe463369 wrote: post #419

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Can you explain why? I can understand why people want things for free, but thinking that you shouldn't contribute towards the production cost of the programme you enjoy seems strange to me.

I think that people that can contribute to the cost of making the programme should do so, but I’m also happy if people that cannot still get to enjoy it.

Exactly! I used to be in the latter camp as a child - allowance paid for some stuff, but not a lot, now I'm in the former group and am happy to subsidize the enjoyment of those less privileged than me. Especially because some of those people are probably going to be inspired and create some great art I'll really enjoy.

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Post by chmod775 »

Batman8675309 wrote: post #634
chmod775 wrote: post #561

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There's also the problem that if the copyright owner themselves made the torrent available, it's not actually illegal to download it...

[X] Doubt

I don't know what's there to doubt really.

You have been provided the work for free by the entity whose prerogative it is to choose the manners of distribution.

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Post by elygre »

tekstar wrote: post #132
flak48 wrote: post #89

An intern once thought it was a good idea to torrent a couple of Game of Thrones episodes using my startup's Digital Ocean box. We found out after Digital Ocean forwarded us an email from HBO (who presumably tracked Digital Ocean down via the IP) that we were engaging in piracy. We sent an email to everyone with access, saying whoever was doing it to stop. Then we got a second email (a final warning). Everyone denied…

I used to work at a ~100 person company that provided satellite equipment, mostly to media companies - radio stations, movie distributors, that type of thing. A senior customer service rep realized he had VPN access to a customer's, like.. T1 line. He started torrenting movies on it. On the CUSTOMERS network. Our entire company was nearly taken offline and the customer threatened cancelling the entire contract and su…

Somewhat off topic, but a T1 line gave a full one-and-a-half megabit/second. "Back then", this was the second coming. Today I have 600 megabit/second in my apartment...

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Post by foobar_ »

doctor_eval wrote: post #545
foobar_ wrote: post #471

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The idea "exclusive monopolies" and transferable intellectual property rights for perpetuity is bullshit. The blunt fact of the matter is - A majority of the movies would gain more by giving it away to the public domain because most movies fail. Radio did not kill Art. Internet is the new radio. The same is true even for software. 80% of business fail. It would not matter if they gave their code away. GPL based busin…

Plenty of 100 million dollar movies have been entirely funded by the people [0]. They pay using a thing called “tickets”, or sometimes by paying a small fee to download it to their homes. To your point, the vast majority of media and software is proprietary, though much of it is supporting in nature and not directly for sale. Nevertheless, shouldn’t publishers be free to choose how they fund their creations? If we ta…

The number of CEOs who think printing money is a good idea might make you wonder if they even know anything about money. Polluting air costs less money why not do it ?

80% movies don't need the 100 million dollar budget and I'm pretty sure Johnny Deepp would be happy to release Edward Scissorhands to the public domain.

Most big movies make their money by single day screenings and releasing movies at different dates in different regions with market buzz.

> If we take away the option of artificial scarcity then an entire highly trained professional class will be out of work.

Interestingly your argument fails for porn. Its about 1/4th the size of hollywood.

How about publishers own the copyright and creators own the copyright instead of commoditising a copyright artefact ?

I assure you musicians can survive and Depp can do some theatre. Most EDM is essentially copyright free, especially techno. 1 year of exclusivity is fine. Fuck NDAs.

These days the cost of production has gone down so I think you will see more indie media taking advantage of that. The average budget for a reasonable movie is less than 5 million, heck even 500k dollars going by kickstarter funded movies.

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Post by throwaway_pdp09 »

Since we're doing Tales Of Stupidity, I knew a guy who was reasonably highly placed in the UK side of a non-trivial multinational. At home he set up a kodi(?) box to play stuff he torrented. At least he did it at home. If he'd been caught he'd have lost his job and possibly got a black mark on his record that would have prevented him getting another managerial job. I don't think he considered the consequences, he just wanted stuff so he torrented. He could have paid for it, but he didn't.

In another place I worked for I had a guy from a very rich shipping family ask me about torrenting stuff illegally (soz M8, not helping ya there). This guy could have afforded to buy the media remotely, say in the US (we were in the uk), and have each disk individually couriered to him cushioned between the warm thighs of high-class call girls. He had the money but he preferred to... be stupid I suppose.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

sho wrote: post #261
flak48 wrote: post #89

An intern once thought it was a good idea to torrent a couple of Game of Thrones episodes using my startup's Digital Ocean box. We found out after Digital Ocean forwarded us an email from HBO (who presumably tracked Digital Ocean down via the IP) that we were engaging in piracy. We sent an email to everyone with access, saying whoever was doing it to stop. Then we got a second email (a final warning). Everyone denied…

The only moral problem I have in your anecdote is the lying about it. With every fibre of my being, I could not care less about torrenting game of thrones .

>I could not care less about torrenting game of thrones.

Promoting and distributing game of thrones is a crime against art, beauty and taste. Pirating it only makes things worse as it exacerbates the network effect.

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