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Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by technick »

tekstar wrote: post #132
flak48 wrote: post #89

An intern once thought it was a good idea to torrent a couple of Game of Thrones episodes using my startup's Digital Ocean box. We found out after Digital Ocean forwarded us an email from HBO (who presumably tracked Digital Ocean down via the IP) that we were engaging in piracy. We sent an email to everyone with access, saying whoever was doing it to stop. Then we got a second email (a final warning). Everyone denied…

I used to work at a ~100 person company that provided satellite equipment, mostly to media companies - radio stations, movie distributors, that type of thing. A senior customer service rep realized he had VPN access to a customer's, like.. T1 line. He started torrenting movies on it. On the CUSTOMERS network. Our entire company was nearly taken offline and the customer threatened cancelling the entire contract and su…

I worked for a large cable company and usually once a week, a thumb drive went around with all the latest pay per view movies on it. Folks from every aspect of the business were apart of this, people who worked in security (had to get rid of logs), people with access to the files (stored in s3 buckets), and people with the decryption keys (set top video app guys). Once the videos were decrypted once, they were converted over to a normal mkv file. I wasn't in the right groups as I had been waging war on the people who were just comfortable at Charter. My team had their own supply of video sources, which was generally things that weren't even ppv yet.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by stiray »

tomxor wrote: post #482
stiray wrote: post #336

I do give you credit of giving people a quick shot how accurate torrent detection can be if you are a casual user not using VPN. Or not using private trackers. But. You dont know and you are clueless that this is not my ip. Furthermore, I have also checked my phone where I have never downloaded any torrent and you are showing 3 movies. This is just scaremongering. I did a few more tests. For multiple private trackers…

> Furthermore, I have also checked my phone where I have never downloaded any torrent and you are showing 3 movies. This is just scaremongering. Not sure if this is the same in every country but mobile phones in UK jump around the same IP block pretty frequently (i.e all day long) even when standing still - i'm using this as home internet so i notice. IP addresses are re-used all the time, this is why it's not usuall…

Yep, typically phone companies put mobile internet behind NAT, exactly this is why I tested it, as I knew it will be false positive. ;)

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by hatsunearu »

tomjakubowski wrote: post #564
gcbw3 wrote: post #398

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I'd bet that was a bouncer/client set address, for the joke. Sigh, people probably trust things like this today because FB(whatsapp)/Google/slack/discord forces you to sign up with valid phone numbers and probably expose that as your ID.

I think the joke may have been by ChrisLMB, who saw the opportunity when he read the unmasked second-level domain in ben174's address.

But the guy's got LMB in his name, what's up with that?

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by chipotle_coyote »

tomc1985 wrote: post #562
joe463369 wrote: post #419

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Can you explain why? I can understand why people want things for free, but thinking that you shouldn't contribute towards the production cost of the programme you enjoy seems strange to me.

It feels so weird to grow up in an age of rampant, unabashed piracy, where literally everyone around you is burning CDs or cracking games or handing out copied mixtapes, and see questions like these. It just goes to show how thoroughly streaming squashed piracy (at least before everything fractured into the current landscape), and how short our collective memories are. Data yearns to be free -- sharing it and copying…

I don't mean to pick on you, per se, but I think there's a long-standing confusion about creative works that's captured in your line:

> Data yearns to be free -- sharing it and copying it costs nothing.

The latter part of that is true (setting aside quibbles about bandwidth and storage not being absolutely 100% free), but here's the thing: back in the days of physical media, of books and DVDs and CDs and what have you, the bulk of the price was never the physical media itself. The paper and plastic was never the valuable part.

> There are so many other ways to monetize media content...

Maybe, but just about all the ones that I've seen boil down to one of three methods:

- charge people directly for the content

- give the content away for free and sell ads against the content

- give the content away for free and make ancillary sales (e.g., merchandise)

Charging people for content doesn't require DRM: essentially all digital music sales are now DRM-free, for instance, and many ebooks are, depending on the publisher.

Also, two other observations.

First, while music publishers were always unduly whiny about the ability to record music at all, burning CDs and making mix tapes did cost money; it may have "felt" just like putting your entire music library up on Napster, but unless you had enough money to just hand out thousands of CDs of other people's music on street corners, it wasn't. It's not really super surprising that digital music piracy made those music publishers a lot soggier and hard to light.

Second, "data yearns to be free" sounds like a rephrasing of "information wants to be free," and I think it's worth remembering that the full quote from Stewart Brand went on to say "Information also wants to be expensive. This tension will not go away." Technology may let us reduce the marginal cost of reproducing anything that can be expressed as data to zero, but that doesn't make everything that ben expressed as data valueless.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by hatsunearu »

toxik wrote: post #446
Arnavion wrote: post #436

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Use your client to create a .torrent. Send the .torrent over. Other party adds your IP as a seed. No trackers or DHT required.

Can’t you just scp it at that point?

scp is terrible over links with low bandwidth and/or high ping.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by rightbyte »

Wistar wrote: post #608
rightbyte wrote: post #459

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Ye I guess seeming like a nice person doesn't prove or disprove anything, but lets not dive to far into your colocated worker's case, but generally. I had a malware once that distributed (legal) porn. Since then I have had that in the back of my head when reading about child porn. I mean, what more effective way to ruin someones life by framing without having to involve yourself physically by planting drugs etc. It d…

Is there some reason you thought I was going to "dive further?"

No I just meant that I spoke in general.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by SenoraRaton »

tstrimple wrote: post #22

Laughs in Usenet. The proliferation of streaming services and restricted content has me investing in alternative options more these days. It's not about paying for content, it's about content becoming less accessible again.

Less?! I have had little to no problem finding even niche media on the internet...

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by Luff »

pathseeker wrote: post #177
londons_explore wrote: post #155

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I would pay extra for an ISP who only kept those logs say 1 hour. 1 hour should be plenty to identify who is currently running some network attack, and arguably an ISP doesn't have a legit reason for keeping private data longer than necessary to be an ISP under the GDPR .

I wonder if there are any government requirements here for people operating ISPs. Does anyone have any insight into the time range that is required to keep these logs (if there is one)?

EU: According to a directive passed 2006, a minimum of six months and at most 24 months. But that directive was ruled invalid and anulled in 2014. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Retention_Directive
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