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Re: Google to Invest $10B in India

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Post by tlear »

kranner wrote: post #145
tlear wrote: post #134

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See Russia as to how to deal with people like that. It is nothing that a raid or accident can’t fix. He is also not murdering Indian soldiers on the border which is a bonus. Same men that ordered that escalation are investing PRC money. If they are not same they share the same boss.

> Same men that ordered that escalation are investing PRC money. If they are not same they share the same boss. This is speculation, unless you have sources in which case please share them. The most detailed and seemingly authentic source [1] I have seen about the Galwan brawl (that resulted in the deaths of 20 Indian soldiers and an undisclosed number of Chinese soldiers) suggests the escalation was not planned but…

That has planned provocation written all over it.

1. Bring new troops trained in different area(much easier to bash someone head in with a club when you were not stationed right across from him)

2. Instantly escalate by attacking enemy officer(clearly planned event)

3. Have melee weapons prepared and ready to go(clearly planned)

Indian officer and men acquitted themselves well I have to say reacting against completely unforeseen attack with their own initiative and aggression. Shutting down this play and counter attacking.

Re: Google to Invest $10B in India

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Post by kranner »

tlear wrote: post #321
kranner wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Same men that ordered that escalation are investing PRC money. If they are not same they share the same boss. This is speculation, unless you have sources in which case please share them. The most detailed and seemingly authentic source [1] I have seen about the Galwan brawl (that resulted in the deaths of 20 Indian soldiers and an undisclosed number of Chinese soldiers) suggests the escalation was not planned but…

That has planned provocation written all over it. 1. Bring new troops trained in different area(much easier to bash someone head in with a club when you were not stationed right across from him) 2. Instantly escalate by attacking enemy officer(clearly planned event) 3. Have melee weapons prepared and ready to go(clearly planned) Indian officer and men acquitted themselves well I have to say reacting against completel…

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Re: Google to Invest $10B in India

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Post by tlear »

kranner wrote: post #322
tlear wrote: post #321

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That has planned provocation written all over it. 1. Bring new troops trained in different area(much easier to bash someone head in with a club when you were not stationed right across from him) 2. Instantly escalate by attacking enemy officer(clearly planned event) 3. Have melee weapons prepared and ready to go(clearly planned) Indian officer and men acquitted themselves well I have to say reacting against completel…

Yes I read the article and your comment violates the HN guidelines.

Here you go, fixed.

Re: Google to Invest $10B in India

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Post by lolheysr19 »

umeshunni wrote: post #288
WBWBWB1010s wrote: post #267

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- How much did america gain from colonial behavior done in India. Remember capital flows, India --> Colonial UK --> 13 Colonies -> Infrastructure Not saying your wrong, but your point just comes to "who got screwed over more" it's not productive to have that debate, because you might ask well Fly Down To the Worst Third World Countries who were hurt most by America, or prior colonialist

> Remember capital flows, India --> Colonial UK --> 13 Colonies -> Infrastructure Given that the Battle of Plassey, establishing the first UK colony in India, happened in 1757, this flow of funds from the British Raj to the 13 colonies seems unlikely.

Battle of plassey 1757 US independence 1776

study capital flows, it's not that simple. Wealth and investments crossed borders in the 1700s

Re: Google to Invest $10B in India

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legolas2412 wrote: post #307
kranner wrote: post #103

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> Companies being Ambani owned, while worse than a competitive market, is still much better than being Tencent owned. But better how, exactly?

China, an authoritarian state can and does use its financial influence to force it's interests. Do you not see how Chinese vc answer to china and not india? If you think they can just be banned, what else do you think is the Indian government doing? Ambani is still subject to Indian laws, and even if he leaves, his wealth and empire is answerable to the Indian government.

The companies that Chinese VCs have invested in, in India, are also subject to Indian laws. No I don't think the Indian government can grab Chinese shares in Indian companies. That is why I'm asking what the problem is if the Chinese invest in Indian companies. To me it seems better that investments are spread between Ambani, the Chinese and all the rest rather than letting Ambani own everything.

Re: Google to Invest $10B in India

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Post by kranner »

tlear wrote: post #323
kranner wrote: post #322

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Yes I read the article and your comment violates the HN guidelines.

Here you go, fixed.

Thanks for taking out the ad hominem.

As for the rest, I disagree with your interpretation. It can even be argued that the Indians responded disproportionately to one guy being shoved by attacking everyone in the opposing party. Anyway we can't claim both that the Chinese murdered our troops and also that we killed more than twice of theirs than they did ours (but apparently, when we kill them, it is honourable?)

Re: Google to Invest $10B in India

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Post by kranner »

sbmthakur wrote: post #236
kranner wrote: post #218

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That doesn’t address why Chinese money is less desirable than Ambani’s money.

Their influence in India is directly proportional to the money they put in the Indian economy, which basically means the influence exercised by the Chinese government. The lesser the Chinese influence, the better it is considering the current state of India-China relations. Ambani's money is definitely not fueling a known Indian adversary.

You have a fair point regarding not fueling a known adversary. I'm not sure about the influence part, as they have very far from a controlling share in the Indian investments I'm aware of. There is HDFC Bank, but their the Chinese share doesn't exceed 2%. Dubai I think has a larger share than the Chinese.

Re: Google to Invest $10B in India

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Post by tlear »

kranner wrote: post #322
tlear wrote: post #321

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That has planned provocation written all over it. 1. Bring new troops trained in different area(much easier to bash someone head in with a club when you were not stationed right across from him) 2. Instantly escalate by attacking enemy officer(clearly planned event) 3. Have melee weapons prepared and ready to go(clearly planned) Indian officer and men acquitted themselves well I have to say reacting against completel…

Yes I read the article and your comment violates the HN guidelines.

Can't reply to you last comment but here is my take

I was born in totalitarian regime so my point of view on how things work is different. Nobody in the right mind in regime like PRC will show initiative like shoving you enemies Commanding officer. It just never happens. Those guys were ordered to do it. Consequences of doing something like that to you, your family etc without an order would be extreme.

Number of killed in the end is irrelevant, it is like US counting how many vietcong they bagged, utterly pointless. Small units, ncos and officers performed very well here.

I think it was what you call reconnaissance in force. Chinese wanted to see the quality of the opposing units, cause confusion and perhaps fear. They succeeded in first, others not so much. But they are persistent and judging from satellite photos have been building up force in the are for a while. Act 2 will come, sooner or later.

It is very consistent with the "fishermen" ramming opponents ships, killing Vietnamese sailors etc. This has been MO of the PRC for a very long time.

Re: Google to Invest $10B in India

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Post by vidarh »

buran77 wrote: post #237
eldaisfish wrote: post #185

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>India's population is within 50 million of China but has double the growth rate. What on earth are you talking about? India's growth rate in the past decade is nowhere comparable to China's. Even if you argue that China cooks their books, you cannot discount the volume and value of trade that China does with numerous other countries. http://statisticstimes.com/economy/china-vs-india-economy.ph... >it still has a hug…

> India's population is within 50 million of China but has double the growth rate. The growth rate refers to the population.

India's population growth is largely just trailing China by ~30 years. Current projections seems to suggest China's population will peak around 2030, and India around 2060. It's clear India's population will exceed China's, but it won't get all that much higher as birth rates in India are dropping with development like most other places.
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