Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

iknowwhatyoudownload.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

471–480 of 786 posts

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

#471

Post by foobar_ »

NortySpock wrote: post #157
cosmojg wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh? Why?

Because I make my money selling my labor and IP to my company (software engineer, it's in my contract.) If someone stole my IP from me or my company, it would be harder to pay the bills for either me, or my company.

The idea "exclusive monopolies" and transferable intellectual property rights for perpetuity is bullshit.

The blunt fact of the matter is - A majority of the movies would gain more by giving it away to the public domain because most movies fail. Radio did not kill Art. Internet is the new radio.

The same is true even for software. 80% of business fail. It would not matter if they gave their code away. GPL based business have made billions, i'n not even talking about open source and have more users than some of the biggest "startups".

Among the minority that made it "big" copyright contributed maybe 5% to the success. IP allows big companies to bully creators, lie to consumers and bully independent companies that they perceive as threats.

In Music, Code, Science ... openness has lead to more innovation. Movies and Games present an interesting case. They have plenty of upfront costs. Games have already embraced some notions of the freemium mode. It would be really interesting if 100 million dollar movie is entirely funded by the people. There is nothing stopping that from happening. Copyright, Patents should last at-most 1 year.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

#472

Post by alashow »

demadog wrote: post #119
sn_master wrote: post #112

I've been using a Seedbox since December 2014. Best 15$/month I pay. You can even pay with Bitcoin, tho I just use PayPal. 2 TB of storage, very fast speed with caching (i.e. some torrents finish immediately if someone else has it downloaded). An uncached Blu-ray ~4 GB movie gets finished in 15-30 mins. They also have auto-delete feature. If they get a legal complaint they just delete the offending torrent and keep m…

Which seed box?

Check out https://www.premiumize.me/ref/971622042, been using it for 3 years.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

#473

Post by lostlogin »

debacle wrote: post #212
flak48 wrote: post #89

An intern once thought it was a good idea to torrent a couple of Game of Thrones episodes using my startup's Digital Ocean box. We found out after Digital Ocean forwarded us an email from HBO (who presumably tracked Digital Ocean down via the IP) that we were engaging in piracy. We sent an email to everyone with access, saying whoever was doing it to stop. Then we got a second email (a final warning). Everyone denied…

The flip side: When I was an intern I once had four people arrive at my desk (including an HR lawyer) for torrenting ubuntu server. Thankfully I shared a cube wall with someone smart enough to realize the confusion, and explain me out of being walked out. They were monitoring for torrent traffic, but weren't paying attention to what was being torrented. Apparently a company-wide warning had gone out the week before I…

I torrented a couple of Ubuntu versions from a VM and then forgot about it. In one month I got though nearly 5TB of data before I noticed. It was a home connection and unmetered, but it gave me a fright.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

#474

Post by tasty_freeze »

fortran77 wrote: post #374
inetsee wrote: post #345

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worked on a secure project a very long time ago. A very smart guy (he was working on the operating system for a military avionics computer) printed out some child porn photos on a company color printer. (This was long enough ago that good quality color printers were very expensive, not like now when you can buy a color printer for less than $100.) He got walked out. I don't know what other consequences he suffered.…

See "The Rise and Fall of Patrick Naughton" https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-rise-and-fall-of-patrick-n...

His wikipedia entry ends with:

> He ended up serving no prison time, in exchange for working for the FBI for free for a year.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

#475

Post by jimmydorry »

TallGuyShort wrote: post #309
jjice wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Couldn't the intern have paid for his own bare bones VPS and done it from there? Or used a different paid VPN service, which cost roughly the same ~$5? Seems like the cost of a VPN compared to the value of his internship wouldn't even compare. All for some campus clout.

It's potentially less anonymous to the people who might prosecute you. Probably didn't realize how anonymous it wasn't to the employer and didn't factor that cost in to the decision. But if you're willing to $5 to get a show, you're probably less likely to pirate it anyway (or at least be the seed).

As far as I recall, $20 wouldn't even get you a single GoT episode in Australia. As a consequence, Australia had one of the highest piracy rates on GoT / HBO shows.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

#476

Post by Bnshsysjab »

gpm wrote: post #456
toxik wrote: post #446

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can’t you just scp it at that point?

Hypothesizing - that would be more prone to network failure, torrents are very robust against either peer temporarily losing an internet connection.

Iirc SCP supports resuming transfers. Granted torrent architecture is very robust, but I’ve never had a problem with the way scp resumes work.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

#477

Post by mulmen »

Groxx wrote: post #334
mulmen wrote: post #42

Off topic but this raises a question about iMesssage parsing of URLs. I copied just the base URL (without my IP, so he would get his) and sent this to a friend. The preview in iMessage lists my IP, because iMessage actually visited the link. Does the message he receives show his IP or mine? e: Just tested this, it shows my IP on the receiving end. It appears iMessage creates the preview text on the sender’s side so t…

Signal has a fairly detailed strategy for previews, as they're quite privacy sensitive: https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360022474332-Li... And a (small, but has a few links) blog post about it: https://signal.org/blog/i-link-therefore-i-am/

This is really interesting and gives me a new respect for Signal for thinking about it.

After considering the options it seems Apple made a reasonable default assumption but in the case of sites that reveal information about me it is a bit frustrating. An option would be nice but, :Apple:.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

#479

Post by panopticon »

loeg wrote: post #443
SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Usenet has its own issues though. The past couple years there’s been a massive jump in DMCA takedowns. On certain things you now have download as it becomes available, in a week it’ll be gone. For things that no one cares to pay for monitoring of, you can go back years. So, pros and cons to torrents that don’t get taken down specially but torrents “die” of old age when no one seeds them. It’s odd to me that file shar…

Only the past couple? I thought it was more or less overwhelmed by DMCA bots as early as maybe 7-8 years ago.

I remember in college I used to be able to download as far back as my Usenet provider's retention allowed in most cases. Shortly after graduating, I couldn't download anything that my auto-downloader (SickBeard back then) didn't pick up unless it was really niche. That aligns with your 7-8 year estimate.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

#480

Post by Bnshsysjab »

stiray wrote: post #336

I do give you credit of giving people a quick shot how accurate torrent detection can be if you are a casual user not using VPN. Or not using private trackers. But. You dont know and you are clueless that this is not my ip. Furthermore, I have also checked my phone where I have never downloaded any torrent and you are showing 3 movies. This is just scaremongering. I did a few more tests. For multiple private trackers…

If your mobile uses a dynamic IP the pool will be shared by others. In my country at least, Logs of client details to DHCP assigned IPs is Legally required.

Private torrents do not show up because I know what you download relies on DHT broadcasts.

Post reply on HN