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Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by mgbmtl » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 7:14 PM UTC

contravariant wrote: post #323

sbarre wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Canada currently uses a "notice and notice regime" [0], meaning the rights holder notifies the ISP, who turns around and forwards the notice to the infringing customer, but does not give the rights holder the account information, nor do they take any punitive action towards the customer. However, the ISP must retain historical data on these notices, so if in the future the laws change, rights holders could in theory…

>if in the future the laws change Almost no legal system works this way. You can't suddenly be found guilty of violating a law that didn't exist.

I agree, but it's not a legal requirement, it's just how things usually work. Here's a counter example: http://www.assnat.qc.ca/en/travaux-parlementaires/projets-lo... - tl;dr: Quebec abolished the statute of limitations for sex/child abuse crimes. Shortly after the law was passed, a group of priests were arrested.

(it took a while to pass the law, and was a multi-party, multi-year process)

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by dri_ft » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 7:15 PM UTC

jnsaff2 wrote: post #299

flak48 wrote: post #89

An intern once thought it was a good idea to torrent a couple of Game of Thrones episodes using my startup's Digital Ocean box. We found out after Digital Ocean forwarded us an email from HBO (who presumably tracked Digital Ocean down via the IP) that we were engaging in piracy. We sent an email to everyone with access, saying whoever was doing it to stop. Then we got a second email (a final warning). Everyone denied…

http://bash.org/?258908

I thought of this exactly.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by nottorp » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 7:17 PM UTC

koheripbal wrote: post #317

dijksterhuis wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I found that odd as well.

Maybe it's because I only accept encrypted connections? Has my paranoia finally paid off?

I think they only track popular movies and some open source downloads (apparently my phone has downloaded the gimp port for windows). For my fixed IP it has nothing.

I've given up on torrenting long ago, but not the way the movie industry would like. If it's not on Netflix they can just keep it.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by Groxx » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 7:19 PM UTC

mulmen wrote: post #42

Off topic but this raises a question about iMesssage parsing of URLs. I copied just the base URL (without my IP, so he would get his) and sent this to a friend. The preview in iMessage lists my IP, because iMessage actually visited the link. Does the message he receives show his IP or mine? e: Just tested this, it shows my IP on the receiving end. It appears iMessage creates the preview text on the sender’s side so t…

Signal has a fairly detailed strategy for previews, as they're quite privacy sensitive: https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360022474332-Li...

And a (small, but has a few links) blog post about it: https://signal.org/blog/i-link-therefore-i-am/

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by SkyBelow » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 7:21 PM UTC

sho wrote: post #261

flak48 wrote: post #89

An intern once thought it was a good idea to torrent a couple of Game of Thrones episodes using my startup's Digital Ocean box. We found out after Digital Ocean forwarded us an email from HBO (who presumably tracked Digital Ocean down via the IP) that we were engaging in piracy. We sent an email to everyone with access, saying whoever was doing it to stop. Then we got a second email (a final warning). Everyone denied…

The only moral problem I have in your anecdote is the lying about it. With every fibre of my being, I could not care less about torrenting game of thrones .

At some point I find it hard to draw a distinction between a library and a torrent. Gotta to avoid legal trouble, but from a moral standpoint outlawing torrents is like outlawing the library.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by stiray » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 7:22 PM UTC

I do give you credit of giving people a quick shot how accurate torrent detection can be if you are a casual user not using VPN. Or not using private trackers.

But.

You dont know and you are clueless that this is not my ip.

Furthermore, I have also checked my phone where I have never downloaded any torrent and you are showing 3 movies.

This is just scaremongering.

I did a few more tests.

For multiple private trackers you didnt detect anything (except your false positives), you have failed to detect there is more than one user of IP, you didnt detect VPN (but you could).

Not accurate at all.

A sane advice from this example - use VPN (from other jurisdiction than you are in and not massively well known or free), stop using public tracker.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by make3 » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 7:22 PM UTC

NullPrefix wrote: post #217

jjice wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Couldn't the intern have paid for his own bare bones VPS and done it from there? Or used a different paid VPN service, which cost roughly the same ~$5? Seems like the cost of a VPN compared to the value of his internship wouldn't even compare. All for some campus clout.

Depends, was it a paid internship?

what does that have to do with anything. If the opportunity was good enough for you to take the internship, then they were good enough for you not to risk it by torrenting on their material. He likely got sacked mid summer. He now can't even have that internship on his resume. So much wasted time, so mindless.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by j45 » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 7:23 PM UTC

Great idea, Ads have to go from the top. It made using the tool with interest turn into a negative experience.

If ads must exist, they should be at the bottom where users, after being delighted can decide to click on it.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by Freak_NL » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 7:24 PM UTC

dtech wrote: post #249

srg0 wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also in some markets the official local release was a year behind. Given that it's not possible to get an HBO subscription outside of the US, for many people pirating was the only way to watch it.

Or in the Netherlands, where is was exclusive to 1 ISP

An ISP that provided cable internet exclusively; so if you had fibre at home it wouldn't even make sense to use them.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by lucb1e » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 7:25 PM UTC

How does it know whether certain IPs are static? It labels XS4ALL's residential range correctly as static but surely the owners of this site didn't investigate a random Dutch ISP to find out whether they rotate IP addresses. Is there s registry for this sort of thing? It's not in the whois info that I can see.