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Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by TheRealPomax » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 5:07 PM UTC

crazygringo wrote: post #143

It says they scrape torrent sites and then listen to DHT. But even assuming they scrape "all" torrents, what percentage of users use DHT as opposed to just trackers, and how often will a DHT request hit their server as opposed to someone else's? And are they really able to simultaneously function as part of the DHT for all torrents they've ever scraped, or is it only some small percentage at a time? I'm just wonderin…

Given that DHT means websites hosting magnet links are in the greyest possible of legal areas, as opposed to websites that run their own tracker, which makes them pretty much guilty of aiding and abetting by default: DHT is by far the more used technology these days.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by srg0 » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 5:08 PM UTC

sevenf0ur wrote: post #147

flak48 wrote: post #89

An intern once thought it was a good idea to torrent a couple of Game of Thrones episodes using my startup's Digital Ocean box. We found out after Digital Ocean forwarded us an email from HBO (who presumably tracked Digital Ocean down via the IP) that we were engaging in piracy. We sent an email to everyone with access, saying whoever was doing it to stop. Then we got a second email (a final warning). Everyone denied…

Game of Thrones was the most pirated TV show in history. I remember when the first 4 episodes of season 5 were leaked at once. Christmas came early!

Also in some markets the official local release was a year behind. Given that it's not possible to get an HBO subscription outside of the US, for many people pirating was the only way to watch it.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by alias_neo » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 5:08 PM UTC

monocasa wrote: post #70

Santosh83 wrote: post #12

Well my ISP gives out a dynamic IP address each time my DSL modem connects to them, so this tactic only reveals who downloaded what when they were assigned my current IP. Nothing much can be inferred from this data unless you are the ISP or govt and can tie the IP to the subscriber. And yes, it shows my IP downloaded the movie Zombieland, which I never did, so it is some other subscriber of the same ISP.

I checked this from a phone who's provider NATs IPV4. People be wild on their mobile connections. I don't torrent on mobile only because the bandwidth will get me throttled, but god damn someone on my NAT has some filthy habits.

Someone sharing mine really enjoys some BBC "documentaries" on mobile, and I don't mean the broadcasting corporation.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by Stierlitz » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 5:10 PM UTC

flatiron wrote: post #115

i picked a random PIA Montreal Node (which supports Port forwarding) for some interesting results: https://iknowwhatyoudownload.com/en/peer/?ip=199.229.249.191

“MommyBlowsBest.18.10.31.Marie.Mccray.Story.Time.XXX.SD.MP4-KLEENEX”

Haaaarrrr

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by mulmen » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 5:10 PM UTC

kalium-xyz wrote: post #133

giantrobot wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The web preview in iMessage is performed by each client. So your friend should see their IP in the preview since it's their client making the connection on their end. This is easy to test if you've got another device with iMessage. Take your phone off WiFi and send yourself the link. The device on WiFi should show your home ISP address while the device on cellular should show the cellular provider IP.

Interesting, I didnt realize I could get people their IP by simply sending them my website without them even ever having to visit it themselves

Based on my limited testing you can’t. And that makes sense because I could make your device visit a URL just by sending you a message.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by Exuma » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 5:10 PM UTC

I like connecting through a VPN and then refreshing the page

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by larntz » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 5:10 PM UTC

hombre_fatal wrote: post #110

partiallypro wrote: post #52

a) this is creepy b) I have wondered this... you know those letters some ISPs send to people telling them what they downloaded illegally? Do they send that stuff to VPN providers? Because it seems like they would just get flooded. I connected to my VPN service and there are thousands on that IP range.

The ISP is looking for IP addresses in its address range in the peer list, looking it up in its customer database, and sending its own customers a letter.

Is this true?

As I explained in another post, I used to work at a small ISP many years ago. We did not monitor anything, but we did get emails from MPAA people (my memory is a little fuzzy) about an IP downloading a something. We would then pass it on to our customer.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by qntty » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 5:12 PM UTC

sn_master wrote: post #123

demadog wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which seed box?

Whatbox. The 15/month plan I have is the legacy one, but the new plans are only very slightly more expensive (22$) and have more storage and speed.

The "US" servers are actually in Canada. I use them and the performance for streaming is slightly better. Although I wouldn't really be worried either way as I don't use public torrent sites.

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by brutal_chaos_ » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 5:12 PM UTC

_tbyy wrote: post #125

flak48 wrote: post #89

An intern once thought it was a good idea to torrent a couple of Game of Thrones episodes using my startup's Digital Ocean box. We found out after Digital Ocean forwarded us an email from HBO (who presumably tracked Digital Ocean down via the IP) that we were engaging in piracy. We sent an email to everyone with access, saying whoever was doing it to stop. Then we got a second email (a final warning). Everyone denied…

The problem here is not recognizing that the piracy was actually the problem. In what way was it forgivable? Because everybody does it, that makes it okie dokie? Because you don't have a Netflix account? If everyone treated piracy as theft (it is) then no one would have to waste their time investigating it because the collective will would exist to prevent it.

> as theft (it is)

Are you sure digital piracy is theft? Wikipedia defines theft as:

"The taking of another person's property or services without that person's permission or consent with the intent to deprive the rightful owner of it."

Copies are made, sales (possibly) lost, but no property is being taken such that the owner cannot continue to sell/rent/etc it.

My take: I'll pay for whatever streaming service that has the content I want (except Hulu), but if it is not available to stream then Internet Copies are an option for me. I don't have a DVD/Bluray/etc player to go the physical copy route and would simply go without if not for streaming first then Internet Copies.

physical copy theft: the physical medium is being stolen, the works are still available, but it is theft because packaging is an industry unto itself, costing money. Making an internet copy costs (basicallly) nothing.

In all: I will pay for what is available, I will even wait if they announce something I want is coming to x-platform at y-date. Because of Netflix alone, I basically don't download movies now. Disney+ is an interesting option now, too. If the market provides, it can have my money!

Re: I Know What You Download on BitTorrent

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Post by paulie_a » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 5:13 PM UTC

Obviously stupid to use work resources to do it. But from home there simply are no real repurcussions. You get a letter and it goes in the trash with no followup.