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Cars and hygiene killed the middle-class hat

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Re: Cars and hygiene killed the middle-class hat

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Yah, I’m always looking for a good hat.

Apologies for the late response. I've been a tad busy :) https://tocofashion.com/ is her site. You'll find it's mostly high fashion designs for women, but she has (and can) design and make hats for men.

Thanks, those are very, very nice! It's true I have no need for such a hat, but I appreciate your sharing them and hope some other HN reader does.

If I think of an occasion that calls for a specific hat, I'll try to keep her business in mind. :-)

Re: Cars and hygiene killed the middle-class hat

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As a chemist I squinted at “need to be absorbed to be effective”. The molecules in sunscreen either block or absorb UV. Nothing gets “absorbed into” the skin. It just sits on top (the skin is an amazing barrier). The fact the molecule can absorb UV doesn’t change if it’s sitting in a tube or on top of your skin.

Every source I could find indicates this distinction as well as the fact that chemical active ingredients need a bit of time to be absorbed, unlike physical ingredients. Maybe you could provide an explanation for how your claim seems to fit for chemical sunscreen active ingredients? Here's another excerpt from a different source: > Chemical sunscreens use up to a dozen ingredients that, when applied, are absorbed in…

I think the wikipedia article for one of these "chemical sunscreens" sheds some light on the issue.[1]

These "chemical sunscreens" are also used in plastics to prevent UV damage. There is no "reaction with the skin" required - the molecule absorbs UV light all on it's own. And if the molecule "reacted" with the skin (i.e. create a chemical bond), that would likely alter it's UV absorption.

As per another reply, the only think I can think of is there is some "drying" of the sunscreen that prevents it from easily rubbing off. If you don't wait for it to dry, then the sunscreen won't perform as described.

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxybenzone

Re: Cars and hygiene killed the middle-class hat

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I find that putting on a big floppy hat is quicker and easier than applying sunscreen to my face. So I wear one during the summer when I'm outside. I keep an additional one at work for summertime lunch. The only obstacle is, when I'm outside, I'm often wearing a bike helmet.

Problem solved. https://www.etsy.com/listing/197194627/blake-helmet-cover?ga...

Thank you for sharing this. I had no idea such existed. It's hilarious and I'd totally wear this if I was still cycling (let alone going outside).

Re: Cars and hygiene killed the middle-class hat

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Common etiquette says that you dont wear hats indoors unless you are in service or a woman, I heard somewhere.

> in service Interesting; in British English in service applied to a human being means in domestic service , like the servants in Downton Abbey; applied to inanimate objects it means that they are functioning or that a bus, for instance, is ready to take passengers. This isn't meant to say that your way of saying it is wrong by the way.

I'm pretty sure that's the meaning GP was going for. The only other meaning I can think of would be "serving in the military", which (in the US at least) would be "in the service" and anyway members of the military also remove their hats indoors except in certain specific circumstances.

Re: Cars and hygiene killed the middle-class hat

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I have 3 hats: A seaweed one for summer (very light, protection from the sun), a felt one (warmth and some rain protection) and a faux-leather stetson (sun/rain and very sturdy, so I tend to take it on flights and for festivals). Mainly utilitarian, but I also like how they look. And I find caps hideous. While there aren’t many people with hats, there are some (most, but not all, older than me; I’m 34). Never gotten…

Could you link to an example of a seaweed hat? I've never heard the term and Google is giving me very mixed results.

Re: Cars and hygiene killed the middle-class hat

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> in service Interesting; in British English in service applied to a human being means in domestic service , like the servants in Downton Abbey; applied to inanimate objects it means that they are functioning or that a bus, for instance, is ready to take passengers. This isn't meant to say that your way of saying it is wrong by the way.

I'm pretty sure that's the meaning GP was going for. The only other meaning I can think of would be "serving in the military", which (in the US at least) would be "in the service" and anyway members of the military also remove their hats indoors except in certain specific circumstances.

I meant arms service; in military/police duty. Probably mistranslation from spanish “de servicio”!

Re: Cars and hygiene killed the middle-class hat

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I find that putting on a big floppy hat is quicker and easier than applying sunscreen to my face. So I wear one during the summer when I'm outside. I keep an additional one at work for summertime lunch. The only obstacle is, when I'm outside, I'm often wearing a bike helmet.

I think the hat a lot of men (especially those with less hair) are looking for is called a boonie hat. More than a few guys I've recommended this hat to have said it's exactly what they wanted, they just didn't know the name. These things cost 10 bucks at an Army/Navy surplus store. I've had mine for about 15 years now, it's held up great. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boonie_hat

It's basically had that's fully reduced to its utilitarian function, with any fashion aspect being an afterthought.

And there are fancier (more expensive) ones that have better airflow, or are rainproof, or fast-drying etc. These are usually made by companies that make outdoor recreation gear. E.g. here's one that can be easily converted between a mesh sun hat and a waterproof rain hat:

https://www.outdoorresearch.com/us/ghost-rain-hat-243519

Re: Cars and hygiene killed the middle-class hat

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I have 3 hats: A seaweed one for summer (very light, protection from the sun), a felt one (warmth and some rain protection) and a faux-leather stetson (sun/rain and very sturdy, so I tend to take it on flights and for festivals). Mainly utilitarian, but I also like how they look. And I find caps hideous. While there aren’t many people with hats, there are some (most, but not all, older than me; I’m 34). Never gotten…

Could you link to an example of a seaweed hat? I've never heard the term and Google is giving me very mixed results.

Look up a "seagrass" hat instead.
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