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Text-Only Social Network
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#182When you say "social network", do you mean Twitter Clone? It seems like developers in particular have come to regard Twitter as archetypal social networks despite it's many problems and the way the user doesn't really much ability to define their own social graph. IE, N-character limit is still a determiner of Twitter (poisonous) discourse quality, just for example and Twitter isn't something most people enjoy being…
I very much want a Facebook for coding friends clone.
Lots of solutions out there but I for whatever reason I don't like any of them
Slack/Discord and similar interfaces are effectively chat. I want topics and replies. I know you can start a topic on both of those but it just feels less conducive to friends talking to me than talking on Facebook.
I could make groups on facebook. I can't put my finger on why this doesn't work. Maybe because it requires diligence. I have to remember to select the group of "programmer friends" that I want to topic to go to. Forget and my either my programmer friends get family posts or my family gets programmer posts. Also FB will spam non-programmer friends with "g posted about x over here".
A forum like discourse or phpbb doesn't have to social graph. Anyone that joins can participate in all discussion. I want to talk to friends only
Google+ and some features that seemed to kind of go in this directly but I feel like most people used it to spread news instead of discuss what they're working on or thoughts they are having. I don't need tech news. I can get that here.
I'm not even saying Facebook is the best UX for what I want. I used to enjoy a smf forum that was mostly friends and I liked that I could see the list of topics. But, I also just like glancing at my Facebook feed once a day or so and see what my friends are up to. I'd like a similar experience except for programming / tech only topics with tech only friends.
And of course it goes without saying that a coding FB should format code well and some how allow embedding live snippets in iframes
Note: I know lots of people say their FB news feed is a dumpster fire. For whatever reason I've unfollowed enough people or something that mine is fine. Unfollowed every political friend for example. Just don't want that on my newsfeed. Can get it elsewhere
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#183After reading the description and limitations, feel like people are finding new and innovative ways to market & sale - "Laziness".
Re: Text-Only Social Network
#184When you say "social network", do you mean Twitter Clone? It seems like developers in particular have come to regard Twitter as archetypal social networks despite it's many problems and the way the user doesn't really much ability to define their own social graph. IE, N-character limit is still a determiner of Twitter (poisonous) discourse quality, just for example and Twitter isn't something most people enjoy being…
I very much want a Facebook for coding friends clone. Lots of solutions out there but I for whatever reason I don't like any of them Slack/Discord and similar interfaces are effectively chat. I want topics and replies. I know you can start a topic on both of those but it just feels less conducive to friends talking to me than talking on Facebook. I could make groups on facebook. I can't put my finger on why this does…
If all you want on top of Discord/Slack is proper topics, https://zulipchat.com/ is worth a try.
See, for instance:
https://rust-lang.github.io/compiler-team/about/chat-platfor... https://www.ponylang.io/community/
(both use zulip for their main chat platform, AFAIK)
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#185When you say "social network", do you mean Twitter Clone? It seems like developers in particular have come to regard Twitter as archetypal social networks despite it's many problems and the way the user doesn't really much ability to define their own social graph. IE, N-character limit is still a determiner of Twitter (poisonous) discourse quality, just for example and Twitter isn't something most people enjoy being…
I've been working on Taaalk (https://taaalk.co), a social network for conversations.
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#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree with the overall sentiment of your comment but.. > It's exclusionary and for zero good technical reason. For every reasonable programming language, there are functions to do everything in UTF-8 that you can do in ASCII, with about the same complexity. At minimum, unicode does come with a lot of complexity in implementation, and a lot of potential vulnerabilities due to that complexity. Not saying that excuses…
Unicode includes a lot of features that aren't universally desirable in applications that handle text. "Zalgo" text (many stacked combining subscript and superscript characters) can break out of the box it's contained in. Emoji characters render as distracting full-color icons that are easily confused for UI. Directional overrides let you plop an "everything after this should be printed backwards" control character i…
> IMO websites like this that challenge the assumption that all modern software is obligated to support all of Unicode are a valuable contribution to the world, if only because they might inspire the creation of a better, more well-scoped character set.
Oh God no.
We do not need any more character sets.
Most of what you mention can be fixed with a font, and the LTR-override stuff is in the realm of proper escaping which all web apps everywhere in the world need to do at all times absolutely goddamned regardless.
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#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did you just say "said nobody ever" to someone who literally just said that? There is clearly at least one person who feels that way.
I'm surprised that up until now I've never seen someone on HN comment about following artists on Twitter. This is all I ever use Twitter for, never tweet myself, and unfollow people who only make passing statements that can be made up in a few seconds. My feed is almost entirely filled with people who use Twitter as something like Deviantart or Pixiv to upload original artwork and only use the character count for wri…
> My feed is almost entirely filled with people who use Twitter as something like Deviantart or Pixiv to upload original artwork and only use the character count for writing a description or title
Me too! If I discover an artist I like, I'll scroll through their feed quickly before I decide to follow. If they tweet mostly one liners or politics with only the occasional artwork, then it's a pass from me.
One other thing I'd suggest is muting certain keywords. Adding political terms to your mute list can clean things up significantly.
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#188When you say "social network", do you mean Twitter Clone? It seems like developers in particular have come to regard Twitter as archetypal social networks despite it's many problems and the way the user doesn't really much ability to define their own social graph. IE, N-character limit is still a determiner of Twitter (poisonous) discourse quality, just for example and Twitter isn't something most people enjoy being…
I very much want a Facebook for coding friends clone. Lots of solutions out there but I for whatever reason I don't like any of them Slack/Discord and similar interfaces are effectively chat. I want topics and replies. I know you can start a topic on both of those but it just feels less conducive to friends talking to me than talking on Facebook. I could make groups on facebook. I can't put my finger on why this does…
Lots of solutions out there but I for whatever reason I don't like any of them
This is one of the reasons why I think Facebook is virtually impossible to topple as the dominant social network. Facebook came along when social networks were new and unusual, and people didn't really have ideas about what they could be. Everyone accepted Facebook's UI and feature set, even if they didn't really like it, and signed up anyway. Now people expect to see set of features they want from a social network on Day One, and won't compromise by signing up if those things aren't there. Consequently if you want to build a new social network app you have a massive undertaking from the outset. Without doing that no social network can gain enough traction to grow enough to compete with Facebook.
Unless users are willing to accept a less than perfect solution they're going to be stuck with Facebook as the only real option.
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#189When you say "social network", do you mean Twitter Clone? It seems like developers in particular have come to regard Twitter as archetypal social networks despite it's many problems and the way the user doesn't really much ability to define their own social graph. IE, N-character limit is still a determiner of Twitter (poisonous) discourse quality, just for example and Twitter isn't something most people enjoy being…
> and Twitter isn't something most people enjoy being on but I think it's what people get on to seem/feel important
This feels like a "everyone is mostly like me" fallacy. A whole ton of people use Twitter because they actually enjoy it.
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#190you mean... like irc?