Can people not just work somewhere without sexually abusing staff please?
Apparently not, according to the downvotes. I've noticed the quality of commenters and submission decline on this site of late. Keep it coming /s
Ubisoft CCO Serge Hascoet resigns in wake of sweeping allegations
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Re: Ubisoft CCO Serge Hascoet resigns in wake of sweeping allegations
#32Weird to see this here. I have limited knowledge on these things; FD: I work for Ubisoft in their Massive Studio. Ubisoft itself is incredibly silo'd; each studio and each function operates like a loosely coupled bundling of companies. You can think of it like: * Marketing has offices (or colo's in some offices) but has a completely seperate reporting structure all the way to Yves. * (same for other business function…
Actually the Liberacion report leverages a while host of issues directly at Serge - homophobic behavior - drugging subordinates - sexual harassment - alcohol excesses in the workplace as well as his direct reports (selling drugs at HQ, assault, harassment.)
Interesting, I wasn't aware of this.
As much as it pains me to say it, drugging subordinates (or, supplying drugs and perhaps peer-pressuring) and alcohol excesses in the workplace are not complete unknowns.
EDIT You know I should really read the article instead of relying on internal mails; I see now the allegations made against Serge - I am quite certain that nobody at Massive was aware; and certainly Yves himself was not made aware.. which doubly explains why the head of HR was let go..
Re: Ubisoft CCO Serge Hascoet resigns in wake of sweeping allegations
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What I'm trying to say is that: each "head" is responsible for the culture they create So often people forget that leaders set the cultural. > Notably the Editoriale team (gatekeepers for games) was recently expanded to be more diverse.. that diversity was all middle-aged white french guys who came from the same school and had worked in that department before.. so.. not very diverse. This saddens me. I do wonder if…
Diversity is variation among traits. It's easy to calculate for a given group, and also easy to devise a statistical test to ensure the group represents your desired distribution. The only questions (to your point) are what traits you want to measure, and what distribution you desire. For a product or service team, the traits you measure should be those that maximize product fit - that is, the chances that your targe…
> For a product or service team, the traits you measure should be those that maximize product fit - that is, the chances that your target buyers will buy and enjoy your product.
This is overly reductionist. It makes me sad. Life is more than inputs in, product out, dollars in.
Humanity is also quite far from having the sophistication to properly design and construct the type of measurements you are talking about. If it is something we should even do in the first place.
The article I read right before coming to this comment page was the one currently on the front page about being “too efficient”. Very apt.
Re: Ubisoft CCO Serge Hascoet resigns in wake of sweeping allegations
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think Sarkeesian could even possibly be the problem if Ubisoft HR changed their definition of harassment to allow sexual harassment and non-gamer journalists are reporting on it. Companies have "woke" consultants in to make speeches all the time but it's performative and it never changes anything.
I'm more wondering about the value of woke consultants as an indicator - if a company is very concerned about making such performances, could it be an indicator of a guilty conscience?
I can only speak for my admittedly hyper-progressive studio: We brought Sarkeesian in to find our blind spots. (there was also the fact that the studio wanted to fund her work on a more personal level).
But if you consider that roughly 86% of the studio at that time was male, it would have been easy for something to slip through that could have been perceived as anti-women.
A great example is in the game Hitman; there is a moment where you're infiltrating a strip club and an option exists (although, is penalised) for murdering a scantily clad stripper. This was caught by Sarkeesian and used as an example of poor game development that allows for the objectification of women. (or, women as background objects)[0]
We didn't want that.
Re: Ubisoft CCO Serge Hascoet resigns in wake of sweeping allegations
#35Weird to see this here. I have limited knowledge on these things; FD: I work for Ubisoft in their Massive Studio. Ubisoft itself is incredibly silo'd; each studio and each function operates like a loosely coupled bundling of companies. You can think of it like: * Marketing has offices (or colo's in some offices) but has a completely seperate reporting structure all the way to Yves. * (same for other business function…
I was just thinking "Huh, I used to work with someone who went to work for Massive" until I realized you were the same someone :) Interesting to hear how the Massive/Ubi editorial relationship works from the inside
Oh interesting! Hello friend! it's a small internet!
Now I will wonder who you are for weeks! xD
Re: Ubisoft CCO Serge Hascoet resigns in wake of sweeping allegations
#36Weird to see this here. I have limited knowledge on these things; FD: I work for Ubisoft in their Massive Studio. Ubisoft itself is incredibly silo'd; each studio and each function operates like a loosely coupled bundling of companies. You can think of it like: * Marketing has offices (or colo's in some offices) but has a completely seperate reporting structure all the way to Yves. * (same for other business function…
Do you have any insight into what contributed to Far Cry 5 non sequiturs such as leaving out Native Americans (6.5% of MT pop) but including many more African Americans than would ever be present (0.45% of MT population) but fewer Asians than African Americans?
Edit: I'm genuinely curious how these things happen, whether intentionally or compromises due to budgets or time constraints.
Re: Ubisoft CCO Serge Hascoet resigns in wake of sweeping allegations
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What I'm trying to say is that: each "head" is responsible for the culture they create So often people forget that leaders set the cultural. > Notably the Editoriale team (gatekeepers for games) was recently expanded to be more diverse.. that diversity was all middle-aged white french guys who came from the same school and had worked in that department before.. so.. not very diverse. This saddens me. I do wonder if…
Diversity is variation among traits. It's easy to calculate for a given group, and also easy to devise a statistical test to ensure the group represents your desired distribution. The only questions (to your point) are what traits you want to measure, and what distribution you desire. For a product or service team, the traits you measure should be those that maximize product fit - that is, the chances that your targe…
> And the distribution you desire should be a reflection of your target buyers.
You seem to be saying your team should only be as diverse as your target buyers, but your target buyers are often only as diverse as your team.
If you try to ham-fist diversity by saying “oh, it’s representative of our customers” be prepared for somebody else to come along and snap up everyone you aren’t serving today.
Re: Ubisoft CCO Serge Hascoet resigns in wake of sweeping allegations
#38Weird to see this here. I have limited knowledge on these things; FD: I work for Ubisoft in their Massive Studio. Ubisoft itself is incredibly silo'd; each studio and each function operates like a loosely coupled bundling of companies. You can think of it like: * Marketing has offices (or colo's in some offices) but has a completely seperate reporting structure all the way to Yves. * (same for other business function…
Do you have any insight into what contributed to Far Cry 5 non sequiturs such as leaving out Native Americans (6.5% of MT pop) but including many more African Americans than would ever be present (0.45% of MT population) but fewer Asians than African Americans? Edit: I'm genuinely curious how these things happen, whether intentionally or compromises due to budgets or time constraints.
I only know one person who worked on Far Cry 5 (the closer, who also worked on The Division 2 with me).
It's unlikely that she'd know, since closers tend to come in near the end, and artistic choices are usually finished long before - but I will ask.
If I had to speculate, and, remembering of course that it is purely speculation: giving people the opportunity to kill native americans might not have gone over well, especially with the rural american aesthetic.
Re: Ubisoft CCO Serge Hascoet resigns in wake of sweeping allegations
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you have any insight into what contributed to Far Cry 5 non sequiturs such as leaving out Native Americans (6.5% of MT pop) but including many more African Americans than would ever be present (0.45% of MT population) but fewer Asians than African Americans? Edit: I'm genuinely curious how these things happen, whether intentionally or compromises due to budgets or time constraints.
I only know one person who worked on Far Cry 5 (the closer, who also worked on The Division 2 with me). It's unlikely that she'd know, since closers tend to come in near the end, and artistic choices are usually finished long before - but I will ask. If I had to speculate, and, remembering of course that it is purely speculation: giving people the opportunity to kill native americans might not have gone over well, es…
But killing black people is okay because of... optics?
God damn Americans really do be like this sometimes don't they?
Re: Ubisoft CCO Serge Hascoet resigns in wake of sweeping allegations
#40Can people not just work somewhere without sexually abusing staff please?
Apparently not, according to the downvotes. I've noticed the quality of commenters and submission decline on this site of late. Keep it coming /s
The downvotes I don't think indicate others believe that it's okay to just sexually harass people. In fact, I'd venture to say that people here would be in nearly unanimous agreement that it's not okay. With that in mind, your comment to me appears to either be seeking in-group approval ("does anybody else?" When yes, almost everyone else) or is an attempt to be funny. All this to say, neither of those things are really valued here. Hence, downvotes.