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IBM looking for 12 years’ experience in Kubernetes administration

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Re: IBM looking for 12 years’ experience in Kubernetes administration

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Post by PaulHoule »

That job listing doesn't give specific credentials for it, but it seems to also involve:

"...anomaly detection solutions ... leveraging an ensemble of Deep learning and LSTM models. Natural Language Processing for entity, topic clusters and relationship extraction. Text Analytics in human generated tickets and correlation with event tickets for event noise reduction. Apply Natural Language Classification and RNN algorithms to automatically route tickets... Text mining, message clustering / templatization, Logs to metrics, anomaly detection, event annotation and sequencing... for each mainframe batch job ... Identify Anomalies ... using sequence mining techniques"

In all it is an interesting product but it is going to take a lot of people with different skills to make that happen. Many of those areas such as "entity and relationship extraction" and "anomaly detection solutions ... [for] event noise reduction" are still almost pre-paradigmatic from the viewpoint of a working engineer.

The best interpretation I have is that they are hiring a large platoon or small company of software developers, data scientists, project managers, you name it. They are probably using a distributed version of UIMA that spins up at least one container per dev in the production system (because "microservices".)

The person they are hiring here is in charge of keeping that monster going at the K8s level. They may need to settle for hiring 12 people with 1 year of experience, but that would blow their budget -- if the whole team worked that way it would get bloated to a mid-sized or large battalion.

I don't see why they don't just run the system on one of the mainframes it is monitoring. With Parallel Sysplex, Workload Manager, etc. IBM had better stuff than VMWare, Docker, K8S, Zookeeper in the 1990s when they made the transition from bipolar to CMOS and had to go parallel to make up for the single-thread performance loss. z15 mainframes are just crammed with PCIe slots so they should have no problem attaching a tensor accelerator to one.

Trouble is, people who know how to administer mainframes are even harder to find than K8S experts.

Re: IBM looking for 12 years’ experience in Kubernetes administration

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

It's like asking for ten years' experience with Swift.

The job descriptions (especially in hidebound companies like Big Blue) tend to have mandated experience levels.

HR folks aren't engineers, so they should not be expected to know.

However, this should be highly embarrassing to the hiring manager, who I'm sure, was handed the ad text for approval, and probably rubberstamped it without thinking.

Re: IBM looking for 12 years’ experience in Kubernetes administration

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Post by worldsayshi »

pantalaimon wrote: post #24
codingdave wrote: post #10

Recruiters putting silly time requirements on skills is nothing new. My favorite moment of this type was at a meetup for .NET, where a recruiter came in and asked for too many years of experience, and the entire room burst out laughing. She just smiled, accepted the grief we all were giving her, and changed the job description to be accurate. I forget the exact wording she used, but I remember the gist of her respons…

I mean it also puts a bad light at the company. If they don’t even know when the software they want someone to be experienced in was released, how world they even judge if the applicant is competent in it?

Could just be a miscommunication between recruiters and devs of the company.

Re: IBM looking for 12 years’ experience in Kubernetes administration

#34

Post by kristopolous »

pantalaimon wrote: post #24
codingdave wrote: post #10

Recruiters putting silly time requirements on skills is nothing new. My favorite moment of this type was at a meetup for .NET, where a recruiter came in and asked for too many years of experience, and the entire room burst out laughing. She just smiled, accepted the grief we all were giving her, and changed the job description to be accurate. I forget the exact wording she used, but I remember the gist of her respons…

I mean it also puts a bad light at the company. If they don’t even know when the software they want someone to be experienced in was released, how world they even judge if the applicant is competent in it?

There's multiple stages. The recruiter does a handoff early on

Re: IBM looking for 12 years’ experience in Kubernetes administration

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Post by Aeolun »

codingdave wrote: post #10

Recruiters putting silly time requirements on skills is nothing new. My favorite moment of this type was at a meetup for .NET, where a recruiter came in and asked for too many years of experience, and the entire room burst out laughing. She just smiled, accepted the grief we all were giving her, and changed the job description to be accurate. I forget the exact wording she used, but I remember the gist of her respons…

I mean, that’s cool, and better than nothing. But why don’t they ask someone that is qualified to determine those kinds of things before posting the job.

At least, that’s what the recruiters at my company do.

Re: IBM looking for 12 years’ experience in Kubernetes administration

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Post by rgarrett88 »

garmaine wrote: post #23
codingdave wrote: post #10

Recruiters putting silly time requirements on skills is nothing new. My favorite moment of this type was at a meetup for .NET, where a recruiter came in and asked for too many years of experience, and the entire room burst out laughing. She just smiled, accepted the grief we all were giving her, and changed the job description to be accurate. I forget the exact wording she used, but I remember the gist of her respons…

That’s the right attitude to have. I would hire her as my recruiter.

Maybe she could have a hiring manager proof what they’re looking for so it actually makes sense? This just means the first introduction to your company by a potential hire showcases a broken process.

Re: IBM looking for 12 years’ experience in Kubernetes administration

#38

Post by chrisan »

blickentwapft wrote: post #9

Meh. It’s probably just 2 years mistyped. Shouldn’t be on front page HN.

Not sure why you are getting downvoted. Typo or a copy-paste from another job ad.

Its not like IBM team/dept is actually requiring this.

I clicked into this thinking oh maybe it had a long alpha/beta and IBM is doing something really interesting and needed someone with a deep history.

Re: IBM looking for 12 years’ experience in Kubernetes administration

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Post by christophilus »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #32

It's like asking for ten years' experience with Swift. The job descriptions (especially in hidebound companies like Big Blue) tend to have mandated experience levels. HR folks aren't engineers, so they should not be expected to know. However, this should be highly embarrassing to the hiring manager, who I'm sure, was handed the ad text for approval, and probably rubberstamped it without thinking.

It would be trivial for someone to Google it, then make a canonical list for the entire HR department. You’re talking about maybe 30 minutes of work to prevent your company from looking like corporate clowns.

Re: IBM looking for 12 years’ experience in Kubernetes administration

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Post by LudwigNagasena »

wbl wrote: post #18
aaron695 wrote: post #15

Rather than taking the clichéd lesson that recruiters are not humans and evil. How about, apply for jobs even if you don't have the skills they are asking for.

These sorts of inflated requirements disproportionally discourage women and other underrepresented minorities.

This doesn’t mean anything.
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