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Re: Apple supplier Foxconn to invest $1B in India, sources say

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Post by naruvimama »

thewhitetulip wrote: post #258
sbmthakur wrote: post #223

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> They are a religiously persecuted because their sect is being persecuted. CAA is not the only way in which refugees can come to India. They are free to seek asylum if they want. If you want them to be included in the CAA then first ask the Indian government to recognize them as a separate religious sect that's being oppressed.

you claimed that CAA is for religious prosecution. Ahmadiyas and Rohingyas are religious sects who are facing prosecution. ergo, they are qualified under CAA. but you claim otherwise using mental gymnastics. > They are free to seek asylum if they want. If this is the case, abolish CAA and let Afghan Hindus and Pakistani Hindus seek asylum as well. since CAA isn't the only way right? > Indian government to recognize t…

Let Pakistan handover equivalent land to India, let us not forget Ahmadiyas created the Islamic nation of Pakistan.

Rohingas trace their roots to Bangladesh and there are 50+ muslim majority countries for them to migrate to, which is not the case for Hindus and Sikhs.

Moreover mayanmer has unearthed mass graves of Hindus in Rohingya areas, while it isn't surprising, that isn't comforting either.

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Post by naruvimama »

thewhitetulip wrote: post #213
sbmthakur wrote: post #161

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How will be the bill secular when it is in response to the persecution of minority religions in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan? And I don't understand this fixation with Muslims. What about the followers of Bahá'í Faith who are not covered under this bill?

Ahmadiyas are minorities in Pakistan as are the Rohingya in Myamnar. also if you think that Rohingya hsould not be allowed because Myamnar was never a part of India, then Afghanistan was also never a part of India, so why are Afghanis being given fast tracked citizenship of India?

Let Pakistan handover equivalent land to India, let us not forget Ahmadiyas created the Islamic nation of Pakistan.

Rohingas trace their roots to Bangladesh and there are 50+ muslim majority countries for them to migrate to, which is not the case for Hindus and Sikhs.

Moreover mayanmer has unearthed mass graves of Hindus in Rohingya areas, while it isn't surprising, that isn't comforting either.

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Post by legolas2412 »

pankajdoharey wrote: post #101
sbmthakur wrote: post #90

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> Also India is just about as democratic as Putins Russia. Could you share how did you gauge that? Different leaders (from different parties) have led India since Putin took Russia's helm: Vajpayee, Manmohan Singh and Narendra Modi

Yes just look at 'PM Care fund' it is explicitly outside of RTI, and thus prevents people from practising their democratic right to question usage of funds.

So was PMNRF? Is that fund public money that must be under rti (answer is it's not)

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Post by sbmthakur »

thewhitetulip wrote: post #257
sbmthakur wrote: post #224

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> Ahmadiyas are minorities in Pakistan as are the Rohingya in Myamnar. Unlike Pakistan, Indian government considers Ahmadiyas as followers of Islam. First Indian government (or the UN) would have to recognize the sectarian conflict in Pakistan and then we can initiate discussions wrt them. As for Rohingyas, they are known for some serious violence. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/05/myanmar-new-e...

Dude, you said that CAA applies to religious prosecution. Ahmadiyas are a sect of Islam and they're being prosecuted. Islam is a religion so by default this is religions prosecution. if what you said is said in good faith (and not as a propagandist), India should include Ahmadiyas and Rohingya under CAA. otherwise either you are wrong or Indian govt's intentions are not what you claim them to be.

> Dude, you said that CAA applies to religious prosecution.

Yes, I said that. I also said that Ahmadiyas are victims of sectarian conflict and not a religious one. Once you include one sect, there will be demands to include all other persecuted sects (Shias, Sufis etc.) How do you plan to deal with that situation? And if so many Muslims are suffering in those counties then what was the point of partition? Why shouldn't we undo that first?

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Post by sbmthakur »

thewhitetulip wrote: post #256
sbmthakur wrote: post #226

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To a hammer, everything looks like a nail. My comment was irrespective of party and your reply doesn't even answer my question. You may continue with your wild predictions.

> To a hammer, everything looks like a nail This is not reddit for you to start attacking me. Argue on the logic. > My comment was irrespective of party No it wasn't. you claimed India to be superior because we have RTI while totally ignoring that Modi dismanteled RTI. > your reply doesn't even answer my question No, it destroys your argument because you intentionally ignored that Modi govt dismanteled RTI and still…

> This is not reddit for you to start attacking me. Argue on the logic.

This isn't r/India where we bring in BJP/Modi in everything. Please stay on the point.

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Post by pankajdoharey »

legolas2412 wrote: post #263
pankajdoharey wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes just look at 'PM Care fund' it is explicitly outside of RTI, and thus prevents people from practising their democratic right to question usage of funds.

So was PMNRF? Is that fund public money that must be under rti (answer is it's not)

Yes it is a public authority under RTI, more info on Quint Youtube channel https://youtu.be/chug7egGteU or the Article https://www.thequint.com/news/india/5-reasons-why-pm-cares-f...

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Post by nickik »

sufyanadam wrote: post #132
jariel wrote: post #75

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Those are not in the 'top 10' things required to support an electronics manufacturing base. Africa is the last place any electronics are going to be made, and it's completely unsuitable to their situation, at least currently. Manufacturing any kind of electronics any scale requires a fair bit of sophistication. There is a lot of know how in putting together lines, knowing what to optimise, managing supply chains. I j…

I have to disagree with you on almost all points. I lived in East Africa for 20 years, and my observation of the African people was that their intelligence was similar to what you'd find anywhere in silicon valley. The problems you mentioned with financial services was solved way back in 1999 and rivals any mobile / cashless system anywhere else in the world, and that was long before things like square came out in th…

Its not about intelligence. Its about suitability for highly complex multi-level, multi-faceted complex economic supply-chain and supplier system.

It requires good government, good laws, good enforcement of laws, good infrastructure, good stability and much more.

Other countries had this too and the made the necessary changes.

Some African nations did a good job many did not. Once they do they will see similar growth to East Asian countries or other.

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Post by dutch3000 »

amelius wrote: post #195
dutch3000 wrote: post #194

somehow these global corps need to be held to a unified standard with regatds to environmental and human impact as these vary country by country.

Yes but good luck with that. Especially since western companies/countries have profited from the exact same exploitation for so many years already.

economic localization is the only sustainable way forward

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Post by YetAnotherNick »

pankajdoharey wrote: post #20
kodablah wrote: post #12

> With India’s labour cheaper compared with China, and the gradual expansion of its supplier base here, Apple will be able to use the country as an export hub While there are negatives, I appreciate how globalization of manufacturing helps lift poorer economies (albeit it slowly and not always agreeing with the politics of the newly-built middle classes). One might expect manufacturing in mid-Africa in two decades.

Actually I think, the most ideal countries to expand manufacturing to are African countries, they have some of the same advantages once china had. 1. Mineral Resources. 2. Cheap Labour. 3. High Density of Lanthanide and Actinide group minerals. China also has a fourth advantage which is a good mix of Production, Manufacturing and Electronics Engineers. Which Africa doesn't have. On the other hand India doesn't have t…

I think mineral transportation cost would just be an error term in accounting for per phone build cost. This 100 gram phone costs $500.

Also cheap labour doesn't mean cheap in the overall sense. You would have to hire international workers at much higher rate, eg Emirates pays twice to pilots compared to US salaries. Also logistics of other parts will be more expensive. India is just on the verge of crossing the barrier where you could mostly do with local talent and local logistics. Africa is far from crossing that barrier.

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Post by ralusek »

shalmanese wrote: post #239
hyperbovine wrote: post #173

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Actually Africa only has as much coastline as Europe despite being much larger. It has a high proportion of landlocked countries.

Technically, according to Cantor, every stretch of coastline has exactly as much as every other stretch of coastline ever.

Some infinities are larger than others.
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