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Re: Ask HN: What's the worst piece of software you use everyday?

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Docker. I use it and love it every day in both dev and prod, but I also really kind of hate it. I'll keep my complaints short. There should not be a system-wide daemon. (Or any daemon). It should not require root at all (no setuid either). From outside the container, the container and its processes should be a single process (with threads). (Like glueing a bunch of processes together.) The containers should be nest-a…

If you want more complaints, and well informed ones at that, read https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/containers-future-ian-eyberg/ . I particularly love the quote, The kernel developers view of the docker community is that in the rare case they can actually formulate the question correctly they usually don't understand the answer. There is only so much that you can say to clarify things to someone who is thinking about e…

That article seems overly critical about young developers that don't know it any better because they grew up on containers.

I guess I am one of those so I got to ask, is the proposed solution of unikernels something we had before but lost in favor of containers, or is it something completely new anyways?

It does look like it might be the latter so why blame developers for using containers due to lack of choice? If unikernels are better and just as easy to use then I am sure people will convert.

He blames a lot on marketing and marketing lies but his company (https://nanovms.com/) seems to make it just as hard to figure out what's going on with the apparently only option being a schedule a demo button.

Come on, I remember Docker being that fancy new thing that people at university taught themselves and to each other around ~2014/2015. That hype was well deserved and if you want to compete with that you can't just decide to brush it off as wrong and misguided.

At the risk of pointing out that I also might be one of those that the quote above is referring to, I gotta ask:

Is there a technical reason why I shouldn't be able to eventually just replace Docker with a micro or unikernel? Same or similar style of image definition, completely different runtime technology?

Isn't it up to the kernel and platform developers to build the tools to make that happen comfortably for all of us naive container users?

Re: Ask HN: What's the worst piece of software you use everyday?

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Anything Atlasssian. Jira, Bitbucket, confluence. Just frustrating to use, poor UX, and slow. Business types love them however. AWS. It’s UI is honestly baffling, it feels and looks like someone made it in a rush with jQuery and Bootstrap years ago. It’s login and identity and resource management is confusing, and apparently you need a chrome extension which adds a bunch of complicated options I don’t really understa…

You are so right about Atlassian tools. I cannot stand Jira. Very often, it's easier and faster to fix a bug, then to update the status in Jira. It's clutterware.

Re: Ask HN: What's the worst piece of software you use everyday?

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post #441

Anything Atlasssian. Jira, Bitbucket, confluence. Just frustrating to use, poor UX, and slow. Business types love them however. AWS. It’s UI is honestly baffling, it feels and looks like someone made it in a rush with jQuery and Bootstrap years ago. It’s login and identity and resource management is confusing, and apparently you need a chrome extension which adds a bunch of complicated options I don’t really understa…

Fully agree on Jira. Disliked it enough to start a company to compete with it [0]. Also agree on AWS. Their UI is so terrible and confusing that it makes writing CloudFormation yaml files feel alright in comparison. Been using GCP lately and the UI is somewhat better though still confusing and weird at times. 0: https://kitemaker.co

Neat. You made Trello.

Re: Ask HN: What's the worst piece of software you use everyday?

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Microsoft Teams. I am forced to use it (work) and it is missing really basic features that messenger software had in the 1990s like Push-To-Talk, real multi-window (even with the recent "pop-out" functionality), and its UI is all the worst modern trends. You cannot extend it or fix these issues (e.g. plugins, custom CSS styles, etc). Plus it is buggy, I keep not getting calls/messages/etc, and every time my computer…

Rearrangement of messages in channel based on threads, forcing replies that weren't in thread out of order. A UX that encourages replying out of thread because it's too darn confusing. Unable to quote messages on desktop, but you can on mobile. Unable to be signed into more than one Team. Have they never heard of consultants? At one point last year I had 4 separate Teams I needed to be signed into. Microsoft's soluti…

I've use Teams every day in education for a couple of years now.

My favourite file access "feature" of Teams (I verified it was in fact working as intended, at least until the pandemic and the warts started getting more obvious) was that class teams had read/write access by default for all files in a team. This meant every student in a class team could modify what you uploaded by default. Of course fixing this required opening up the team in Sharepoint and fiddling with permissions, totally something every teacher is expected to figure out right?

Not really a software feature, but their update rollout style is awful as well. Announce features 4-8 weeks in advance of rolling out patches. Inconsistent rollouts, so my home desktop might have the latest feature patch, but my work laptop won't (I was around 4 weeks out of sync at one point). Manual checking for updates won't apply the latest patches. Meanwhile their consultants in education are crowing about all the new features or bug fixes.

I actually like some of the feature set, and it's very useful in an educational setting now they've brought some of the new features online (3 months later than would have been useful for the pandemic lockdown in my part of the world, but oh well), but enough frustrating elements that I'm constantly supporting workmates in its use.

Re: Ask HN: What's the worst piece of software you use everyday?

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post #149

Microsoft Teams. I am forced to use it (work) and it is missing really basic features that messenger software had in the 1990s like Push-To-Talk, real multi-window (even with the recent "pop-out" functionality), and its UI is all the worst modern trends. You cannot extend it or fix these issues (e.g. plugins, custom CSS styles, etc). Plus it is buggy, I keep not getting calls/messages/etc, and every time my computer…

+1 for MS Teams. I am forced to use it at work, too. Terrible audio focus on a single speaker, it really forces you to speak like on these old CB radios where you had to say "over" every time you were done talking. The single window UI follows the mobile-first trend but is awfully inefficient on my three monitor setup, even more so with screen sharing. Plus, our admins lock the whole MS Office 365 down so that there…

The feedback from our users has been that the audio quality is amazing. Sounds like a hardware problem to me. Perhaps you are one of those annoying people who won't wear a headset in a conference call, so we all get to hear your background noise?

Re: Ask HN: What's the worst piece of software you use everyday?

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I agree with the person that says "everything Atlassian", overall it's probably not the worst, but the Confluence WYSIWYG editor has to be one of the most irritating pieces of junk I've ever used. Literally nothing it does is predictable.

Similarly, whomever said Signal has a good point… it never manages to download MMSs for me (which isn't its fault, signal is bad in my house), but it alerts me anyways so I get a stupid "this couldn't be downloaded message" that I have to be distracted by instead of only notifying me when I move into a place where I have good enough signal to download it. It also then says "tap here to retry" but does nothing when I do so (not even an indication that it's working or that I tapped it). Aside from the annoying notifications about messages I can't even read, it tries to make you spread it to your friends and you have to manually close the stupid "Tell this person about signal" thing for every single person you open a chat with. I had to just go back to another SMS app and lose the ability to use their protocol.

The worst though for me is probably pulseaudio (still, after all these years, even though it's gotten a ton better). People knowledgeable about it love to tell me that it's obviously a configuration problem on my part, but every time I start my computer something else is wrong. Every time I plug in my midi controller and start up a synth I have no idea if it will work or not, but it also fails in a different way almost every time. If I turn on a bluetooth device, the device itself mostly connects fine, but then how the audio is routed just seems random. That one works most of the time, but not always, and if I turn the device off my audio settings sometimes go back to whatever they were before, but sometimes I randomly find I no longer have a microphone, etc. everything about it just feels bad.

Re: Ask HN: What's the worst piece of software you use everyday?

#609

Windows 10 Home: Ignoring all of the typical complaints about windows like bloat wear and Cortana... I would be happy is just basic things worked. For example, I often have to switch between wireless networks for my job and the wifi icon in the bottom tray just randomly disappears about 80% of the time so I have to go through the full settings menu to get to it. Also, searching for applications or documents from the…

I'll second Windows 10 home. Focus changes from the app I'm working on to Windows itself - but the screen still shows that the app I was working on. I hit Alt+F4 to close the app (that I'm seeing and so think still has focus) and get the Windows Shutdown prompt.

Re: Ask HN: What's the worst piece of software you use everyday?

#610
The new google chat

No new user, and rarely an experienced one, starts a new thread. Every reply just builds on the original.

All this even when the new thread button is _right in front of you_. But the design is so terrible I don’t blame people for missing it.

(On a separate note, I see no Apple products in main threads. I see a few google ones, Microsoft, Amazon (AWS) and Facebook (workplace))

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