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Re: Flutter for Linux

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Microsoft really has to speed up the Xamarin.Forms / Maui development. The omission of Linux is a really a pity.

Their project, React Native for Desktop, also omits Linux. https://microsoft.github.io/react-native-windows/

Well, here the vendor of a platform supports a framework. They are not the framework owner there (like they are for Xamarin, .NET, ...).

Re: Flutter for Linux

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post #134

From the screenshots and gifs over there I can tell that someone is again forcing people to look at 1) animations 2) grey fonts instead of black and they are even bragging about it being beautiful. These also tend to enormously waste screen space. Are especially those two things configurable by user? I mean - there has to be no animations at all (why does anyone insist on animating theme change? that is just ridiculo…

Non-animated changed are offensive to me. Humans are built to track moving things, not a thing instantly disappearing at one point and another, similar looking thing instantly appearing at another place, with no context telling you whether it's actually the same object. This gets worse the larger the state change is. Similarly information overload is an issue, but of course too little information is as well. That's o…

Yes, animations really influence decisions. Mainly about using the particular piece of software at all (animations are no go for me and a lot of other people).

Some folks do not have the luxury to spend hundreds of miliseconds to seconds each time they do some action (and believe me or not, they do A LOT of actions per day).

Some people are actually using computers to do stuff as fast as possible so they have fast computers. Having fast computer doesnt automatically mean someone is willing to spend those resources on some eye candy.

Stuff moving around actually increases information overload as it adds to state one needs to track (moving object). To some folks this this even causes problems from medical reasons.

When it comes to information density, this should actually be up to user as well (lets call it compact mode for example) but at least to me it is not as critical as movements. Best would be being able to set "margin sizes" or something like that. And even that should be completely trivial given that no one should really write fixed-widget-position applications these days (i havent done so in ages, i'm using vertical/horizontal containers and spacers).

As should be application color theme as we are/were used to for a loooong time. But I understand that it isn't something Windows users are aware of, since each and every program there forces you to look at completely different interface that behaves in other way and has other ux logic.

I do think we can both agree that being able to stop all and every animation (including fading and whatever else in this category) is very important for user inclusion and accessibility. And since (as you said) slowing those down is needed for their development, "disabling" that feature should already be trivial. It just has to be available to user. Otherwise it's just an arrogant negligence and showing over-supremacy by "i know better what you like to look at".

Re: Flutter for Linux

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post #177
post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So unless GStreamer isn't a part of Gnome, Gnome is indeed using Rust as well.

You mean the GStreamer bindings ? And it would matter—some contributors could choose Rust, but Gnome as a project isn't moving to Rust. What aren't you getting here? Are you going to point at people using C++ or C# next? I'm done with this conversation.

And here is another update from Gnome project regarding Rust adoption for Gnome Shell.

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/merge_requests/...

Re: Flutter for Linux

#225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what you mean. On OS X quitting the app certainly seems to actually quit it

"""By default, your app is set to keep running in the notifications area even when the window is closed. Choosing not to leave the app running will remove the Slack icon and badges from your notifications area."""

But that's normal for all apps on OS X. Closing their window doesn't mean quitting them. I'm not sure why you'd fault Slack for following the OS's conventions here.

To quit it, choose that from it's menu or use the cmnd-q shortcut IIRC.

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