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Caste is highly correlated to skin pigmentation, so in practice... this would be almost indistinguishable from regular old racism.
It's not at all highly correlated, and skin color certainly wouldn't trump real caste affiliation.
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I've sadly heard stories about forced deference, though not seemingly as overt as in Cisco, at other tech companies. The most shocking experience is actually a personal anecdote. Someone from India from a client once asked my father, who also works in tech in a senior position, why people listen to him given his background. Kind of jarring given that the discrimination in the US tends to be much more structural and s…
I'm confused. Was it about the Indian's background, or your father's background?
Sorry to say it, but I believe there will always be groups of people who unjustifiably feel they are superior to another group of people.
As a Hindu I'd like to take the opportunity to share that the implementation of the caste system is not based on what it really means to be Hindu. The Vedas state that one's caste is fluid (not based on lineage) and can change in one's lifetime, and that further a person of the worker class is not lesser than someone of the priest caste, they both perform dharma necessary for the community.
Call it out for what it is, even if it was in the Vedas, literature or God said it personally. We should change our beliefs as we mature, take what's right or question what's not.
It was never about a person's role, it was a tool of oppression by a group that wanted to rule over others, where each sub-group did this to groups below them and so on. People who had the same color, kept other people of same color below them, because they were from a lower caste. This is worse than racism.
If it wasn't that worse, then the constitution of India wouldn't have articles prohibiting caste based discrimination or declaring untouchability illegal.
Even if the caste system that is today was from the British or Mughals, people did follow it for centuries under their rule. Why didn't they follow their dharma and treate those from other caste with dignity? It doesn't make sense. In reality, British and the Mughals used the existing system for their own advantage, to divide and rule.
Even if we have laws to prevent caste discrimination, unless it goes out the window socially, we would regress back to the dark ages.
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I couldn't read the article because of the paywall. I'm going to assume the person in question graduated from IIT as well as gained entry. If so, I don't see how it matters if he got in through a door with a lower bar, if he graduated, he graduated. Unless graduating from IIT is a rubber stamp for showing up? Also, just because the bar is lower for admissions doesn't mean that people who cleared the bar couldn't have…
It depends on what theory you believe about why a university degree is valuable. If you see it as a competitive signal of how many people a candidate was better than, then the signal is contaminated.
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Caste is highly correlated to skin pigmentation, so in practice... this would be almost indistinguishable from regular old racism.
It's not at all highly correlated, and skin color certainly wouldn't trump real caste affiliation.
As a Hindu I'd like to take the opportunity to share that the implementation of the caste system is not based on what it really means to be Hindu. The Vedas state that one's caste is fluid (not based on lineage) and can change in one's lifetime, and that further a person of the worker class is not lesser than someone of the priest caste, they both perform dharma necessary for the community.
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@dsr_ I'd argue it is more of a clique/cluster thing - very common in the bay area. A couple of people get hired and bring 'their' people in, whether from Indiana or Iran. They have the all important inside track on information and hiring criteria and help bolster the first in's career. It's a huge HR problem (and HR are typically oblivious, more interested in hiring and firing to order)
How so? From TFA, I get that all of the relevant parties are from India.
"The suit alleges that Iyer told other workers the employee was Dalit and had gained entry into the prestigious Indian Institute of Technology through affirmative action." Indian law explicitly requires a much lower standard of admission for the lower castes. Is it illegal to take consideration of this fact?
I couldn't read the article because of the paywall. I'm going to assume the person in question graduated from IIT as well as gained entry. If so, I don't see how it matters if he got in through a door with a lower bar, if he graduated, he graduated. Unless graduating from IIT is a rubber stamp for showing up? Also, just because the bar is lower for admissions doesn't mean that people who cleared the bar couldn't have…
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I couldn't read the article because of the paywall. I'm going to assume the person in question graduated from IIT as well as gained entry. If so, I don't see how it matters if he got in through a door with a lower bar, if he graduated, he graduated. Unless graduating from IIT is a rubber stamp for showing up? Also, just because the bar is lower for admissions doesn't mean that people who cleared the bar couldn't have…
Ivy League degrees are worthless to most employers except for what they say about how you score (or who your parents are) and this signal is unavailable to those who benefit from lowered admission standards. Does anyone actually think that you learn anything of substance better at the University of Pennsylvania than at the University of Iowa?