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Re: That’s it, we’re quitting

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Post by ugh »

vacri wrote: post #124
ugh wrote: post #120

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Check System Preferences. It’s off by default. Mice that support right clicking have been shipping with every Mac since 2005, trackpads that support right clicking with every Mac since 2006 or so.

So... when I help someone out and need to right click, it's not an annoyance to either alter their settings or have to use two hands? The 'single button interface' demand is silly - all it does is force people to use modifier keys to get the functionality they need. How this is different to just enabling right-click I'll never know.

I don’t know if you noticed but I was at no point defending Apple’s decision to disable the right click by default. I was correcting a comment.

Re: That’s it, we’re quitting

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Post by vacri »

ugh wrote: post #131
vacri wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So... when I help someone out and need to right click, it's not an annoyance to either alter their settings or have to use two hands? The 'single button interface' demand is silly - all it does is force people to use modifier keys to get the functionality they need. How this is different to just enabling right-click I'll never know.

I don’t know if you noticed but I was at no point defending Apple’s decision to disable the right click by default. I was correcting a comment.

My apologies.

Re: That’s it, we’re quitting

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Post by aw3c2 »

marshray wrote: post #29

A document you 'close', an application you 'exit' or 'quit'. The document-centric people have been trying to do away with applications since the the beginning of GUIs. It reality, the document metaphor works great for a few things that resemble documents. But documents are as much an artifact of the paper-handling wold as processess login sessions are to the electronic world. Are they really more fundamental than, sa…

Then don't call them documents but objects (as in the OOP principle).

Re: That’s it, we’re quitting

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Post by telemachos »

masklinn wrote: post #126
telemachos wrote: post #107

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Let's imagine I use a Mac. I open Gmail and I want to send my father a cute picture of his niece. There's no direct way to do this without leaving the application I'm in (Safari) and going somewhere else to get at the picture. By contrast, if this were a Pages document, I could simply click on "Attach a file" and then browse to the folder where the document lives. In the case of iPhoto and iTunes, this feature - file…

> Let's imagine I use a Mac. I open Gmail and I want to send my father a cute picture of his niece. There's no direct way to do this without leaving the application I'm in (Safari) and going somewhere else to get at the picture. I hope you are not serious, because it's not only trivial, I explained how it works in the comment you first replied to : > * If you want to open one of your pictures in a third-party softwar…

I was serious, and I was wrong. Thanks and thanks to tvon for explaining how this works. I didn't read your initial comment that far down since I thought I knew how it worked. I was busy being annoyed at Apple and in a rush to write my response.

In any case, thanks for clearing this up for me.

Re: That’s it, we’re quitting

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Post by jodrellblank »

michaelcampbell wrote: post #75
mgkimsal wrote: post #49

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That's a bit depressing to hear. The SSD perf I've seen on laptops seemed great, but I suspect that in conjunction with slower memory, we'll still see issues. :/

Yes, I agree. I'll caveat my original statement by saying this; I use Windows (work machine), and I'm using the SSD's they gave me, so they may not even be good ones. That said, I can come nowhere near the performance of a video where some guy wired up a bunch of SSD's, then opened every microsoft office application at once and they just popped up on his screen. Some crude timings below (in seconds; time to open from…

Now, you may be saying "DUDE! That's awesome!" and yes, it is, compared to platters

???

I'm saying "which co-worker swiped your SSDs while you weren't looking?". Quick test here, I rebooted Vista and opened Office apps, with a stopwatch timer in the other hand, rounded to closest half a second the results are:

Word: 3s, Excel: 2s, Outlook: 3.5s (no mail in it), OneNote: not present, PowerPoint: 2.5s

That's from a 5400rpm WD Blue laptop drive, on a Core 2 Duo laptop.

Re: That’s it, we’re quitting

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Post by michaelcampbell »

jodrellblank wrote: post #135
michaelcampbell wrote: post #75

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Yes, I agree. I'll caveat my original statement by saying this; I use Windows (work machine), and I'm using the SSD's they gave me, so they may not even be good ones. That said, I can come nowhere near the performance of a video where some guy wired up a bunch of SSD's, then opened every microsoft office application at once and they just popped up on his screen. Some crude timings below (in seconds; time to open from…

Now, you may be saying "DUDE! That's awesome!" and yes, it is, compared to platters ??? I'm saying "which co-worker swiped your SSDs while you weren't looking?". Quick test here, I rebooted Vista and opened Office apps, with a stopwatch timer in the other hand, rounded to closest half a second the results are: Word: 3s, Excel: 2s, Outlook: 3.5s (no mail in it), OneNote: not present, PowerPoint: 2.5s That's from a 540…

Now that's just hurtful.

Re: That’s it, we’re quitting

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Post by Flow »

telemachos wrote: post #134
masklinn wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Let's imagine I use a Mac. I open Gmail and I want to send my father a cute picture of his niece. There's no direct way to do this without leaving the application I'm in (Safari) and going somewhere else to get at the picture. I hope you are not serious, because it's not only trivial, I explained how it works in the comment you first replied to : > * If you want to open one of your pictures in a third-party softwar…

I was serious, and I was wrong. Thanks and thanks to tvon for explaining how this works. I didn't read your initial comment that far down since I thought I knew how it worked. I was busy being annoyed at Apple and in a rush to write my response. In any case, thanks for clearing this up for me.

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