Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’ • Hacker News Board

Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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Post by deusofnull » Fri, Jul 10, 2020, 7:30 PM UTC

KaoruAoiShiho wrote: post #189

hdjrklt wrote: post #148

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The discovery tab (For You) is awesome. Its the first social app where the discovery tab is better than your feed, so much more that you can actually use it without following anyone. It's quite addictive too, you can easily spend half an hour watching videos. The way the discovery tab works also created a meta game: Alt TikTok, Deep TikTok, Elite TikTok, ... The exclusivity aspect is there too, very few users are ove…

Can you give some examples of alt tiktok, deep tiktok, elite tiktok.

tbh it seems like the distinction being made by the stuff about 'alt-lit twitter' and 'weird-facebook' from a few years back

https://stayhipp.com/media/tiktok/what-is-alt-elite-tiktok/

Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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Post by wizzwizz4 » Fri, Jul 10, 2020, 7:33 PM UTC

broknbottle wrote: post #226

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #185

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What was that social network that used to be bigger than Facebook in Brazil? Orkit I think? It was something like that. Edit: Oh, I forgot the one staring me in the face—Youtube! It's no less of a social network than TikTok.

google settled a lawsuit with affinity engines after the engineer came over to google and misappropriated trade secrets. lol the irony.. Google bought youtube.. Google is completely incapable of coming up with their own successful social network.

Google bought YouTube, but it was hardly a social network when they bought it.

Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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Post by xxpor » Fri, Jul 10, 2020, 7:34 PM UTC

centv wrote: post #175

maerF0x0 wrote: post #124

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What does tiktok have that IG stories or SnapChat does not provide? It appears to me that TikTok is just a perpetuation of exclusivity in Social Networks (the same way kids exited FB when their parents signed up) ...

TikTok seems to be more specialized on addictiveness: auto-play unlimited stream of short videos. It's all about removing friction, and TikTok has a good recommendation system.

It's twitter but video in other words

Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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Post by jml7c5 » Fri, Jul 10, 2020, 7:34 PM UTC

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #255

This is an example why I don’t use Twitter regularly. Someone mentions the copy/paste sec vuln in TikTok and “Onur Olmez” writes: > LinkedIn app apparently also has this issue [...] Uncalled for to ban apps for this one reason. I mean, wtf? Everybody on Twitter has an opinion about everything, even things they know nothing about.

Are they wrong?

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Post by bonzini » Fri, Jul 10, 2020, 7:35 PM UTC

matsemann wrote: post #68

ardy42 wrote: post #23

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> I'm more surprised Amazon (or any company, really) employees using an employer-managed device would have TikTok on them to start with, to be honest. I am too. Many years ago at my employer, someone fat-fingered a command and wiped every single iPhone/iPad that an employee had configured to connect the company email system. Even after restoring a backup, the devices would just wipe themselves again unless the owner…

Not exactly the same, but where I used to work someone had turned on "wipe the phone after x incorrect pins" without notifying anyone. Lots of people with kids got their phone remotely deleted. After that I've never allowed an employer to control my personal devices. Not that I actually did before, didn't know activating that stuff had so bug implications. I just wanted the calendar on my phone.

With Android work profiles the employer can require you to allow remotely wiping the work profile, but that would not allow them to touch your personal profile.

Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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Post by tzs » Fri, Jul 10, 2020, 7:35 PM UTC

How does Amazon email access work from home desktops? I assume it is not just simple POP/IMAP/SMTP authenticated by username/password, because if it was you could use that from mobile, too.

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Post by bonzini » Fri, Jul 10, 2020, 7:36 PM UTC

ehsankia wrote: post #204

nvr219 wrote: post #66

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They're devices that are under Amazon's MDM. So if the device was enrolled with their MDM then it applies.

Right, but on Android at least, you can either have the whole device be under MDM (#2) or just a work profile (#3). In the latter, if your sysadmin decides to wipe your device, it only wipes your Work profile and not your entire phone, from my understanding. Is that not correct? My assumption was that any apps installed on the personal partition were off limit for the MDM.

They might still require you to comply voluntarily (and be on your own if you lie).

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Post by ballark » Fri, Jul 10, 2020, 7:36 PM UTC

bonzini wrote: post #254

xendo wrote: post #228

For the context, as an Amazon employee I’m not required to access email from my mobile. The only app that I need to have is virtual pager and it doesn’t require allowing Amazon to administer my phone. Physical pagers are also an option.

Are they using work profiles on Android phones of employees that need mobile email access? It is a very good solution that lets the employer administer only a separate identity and gives them no access to personal stuff. The only global thing that the employer can do is enforce a certain level of security (for example requiring a PIN on the lock screen and data encryption).

Amazon employee here. They do use work profiles on Android phones.

Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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Post by nitrobeast » Fri, Jul 10, 2020, 7:39 PM UTC

Standard corp policy? Google disallows dropbox on devices that can access Google internal data as well.

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Post by bonzini » Fri, Jul 10, 2020, 7:39 PM UTC

ballark wrote: post #268

bonzini wrote: post #254

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Are they using work profiles on Android phones of employees that need mobile email access? It is a very good solution that lets the employer administer only a separate identity and gives them no access to personal stuff. The only global thing that the employer can do is enforce a certain level of security (for example requiring a PIN on the lock screen and data encryption).

Amazon employee here. They do use work profiles on Android phones.

So in theory they should have no control on the apps you install on the personal side. Is this just moral obligation, or are they requiring full control of the phone even outside the work profile?