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Sorry if I missed something obvious, but if we're at the point where the U.S. government is even contemplating banning TikTok, how come it's on Google and Apple stores at this point? They seem to be at least somewhat vigilant about spyware etc.

> if we're at the point where the U.S. government is even contemplating banning TikTok, how come it's on Google and Apple stores at this point?

Because the US Government, Google, and Apple share neither leadership nor most strategic goals.

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Does anyone else feel we're suddenly supposed to be anti-China? Is it because of Hong Kong? (Honest question, I have no strong opinion .) Because it feels like after Russia and Muslims now China is the new enemy. Kind of stupid imho. Anyway, the high road would probably be not to ban any apps but to make the operating systems safer..

Social anger changes in response to black swan events. Islamophobia was rampant after 9/11. People were angry on Russia after the Crimea incident. People are angry on China due to Hong Kong , their treatment of uyighurs, and their growing economic power. This is also amplified by Trump talking about China a lot more than any other country.

Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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Does anyone else feel we're suddenly supposed to be anti-China? Is it because of Hong Kong? (Honest question, I have no strong opinion .) Because it feels like after Russia and Muslims now China is the new enemy. Kind of stupid imho. Anyway, the high road would probably be not to ban any apps but to make the operating systems safer..

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That's not new though, which I think is what the poster is pointing to. China has always been an economic competitor and has been violating human rights for a very long time. There seems to be more attention on it now though.

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I'm more surprised Amazon (or any company, really) employees using an employer-managed device would have TikTok on them to start with, to be honest. As the follow-up tweet says: "Completely independent of the specifics in this instance: get a second device before installing an employer's config profile on your personal device"

Does Amazon provide company phones or just install an MDM profile on your personal phone? I have TikTok installed on my phone, and if my employer said I had to remove it to access my work email, I'd ask them to buy me a work phone. It seems a bit ridiculous that they'd want to control what apps you download on your personal device without providing an alternative.

No Amazon generally does not provide you a company phone, at least not when I was there.

Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

#45

Sorry if I missed something obvious, but if we're at the point where the U.S. government is even contemplating banning TikTok, how come it's on Google and Apple stores at this point? They seem to be at least somewhat vigilant about spyware etc.

China is Apple's second largest market. They are not removing it from the US App Store unless they are legally obligated to do so. They have no reason to add wood to that fire. Apple's best bet right now with this particular issue is to play neutrality.

Tik tok is actual Chinese state owned malware, you think apple would have removed it day one or never let it on their walled garden, since it breaks most apple rules about phone access. Same with the play store.

Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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Sorry if I missed something obvious, but if we're at the point where the U.S. government is even contemplating banning TikTok, how come it's on Google and Apple stores at this point? They seem to be at least somewhat vigilant about spyware etc.

From what I read, I think the issue is people keep claiming it does all this various "spyware" stuff, when it sounds like it's doing nothing that any other app could do, given the (what appear to be) lax permissions of android/ios. If people are so worried about what tiktok can be gathering outside of the app, that is a problem for apple & google. For this, I think it's 100% overblown what people think tiktok is doin…

Yep, I think you're right. Apple needs to put permissions on things like the clipboard for all apps. I certainly don't support the CCP, but extending that distrust to TikTok is somewhat illogical when there is no good evidence of TikTok doing anything that other apps don't do.

Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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I'm more surprised Amazon (or any company, really) employees using an employer-managed device would have TikTok on them to start with, to be honest. As the follow-up tweet says: "Completely independent of the specifics in this instance: get a second device before installing an employer's config profile on your personal device"

Yea. Coming from a banking and financial services background I'm incredulous than any company would allow any social media on a device.

This was all much easier in the blackberry days for them to control

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Does anyone else feel we're suddenly supposed to be anti-China? Is it because of Hong Kong? (Honest question, I have no strong opinion .) Because it feels like after Russia and Muslims now China is the new enemy. Kind of stupid imho. Anyway, the high road would probably be not to ban any apps but to make the operating systems safer..

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Evidence always goes back to that adrian zenz fraud. I don't believe it.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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That's not new though, which I think is what the poster is pointing to. China has always been an economic competitor and has been violating human rights for a very long time. There seems to be more attention on it now though.

China wasn't always an economic competitor though, just that their economy has grown at a large rate for a long time to become almost as large as the US.

Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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Sorry if I missed something obvious, but if we're at the point where the U.S. government is even contemplating banning TikTok, how come it's on Google and Apple stores at this point? They seem to be at least somewhat vigilant about spyware etc.

From what I read, I think the issue is people keep claiming it does all this various "spyware" stuff, when it sounds like it's doing nothing that any other app could do, given the (what appear to be) lax permissions of android/ios. If people are so worried about what tiktok can be gathering outside of the app, that is a problem for apple & google. For this, I think it's 100% overblown what people think tiktok is doin…

It was the whole read write access that was a massive violation of apple and googles store policy.

It can upload and download whatever to your phone.

No other app is even close to allowed that.

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