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Wait, Walter, what is this "wait 20 mins before it becomes effective"? Did I miss something? Aren't the standard ingredients simply opaque to UV frequencies right out of the bottle/tube?
The standard Coppertone sunscreen says Directions: Apply liberally 15 minutes before sun exposure. Reapply: after 80 minutes of swimming or sweating; immediately after towel drying; at least every 2 hours I’ve always heard this as time to absorb to become waterproof, but I’m not sure if it’s actual skin absorption or the liquid used to convey the sun blocking compounds to dry or evaporate. Either way, apply and then…
Cars and hygiene killed the middle-class hat
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Re: Cars and hygiene killed the middle-class hat
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I would hate to shoulder a firearm wearing a modern sport coat. The dimensions of the parts of fabric and the orientation of the seams at the shoulder just don't permit the jacket to fit well while you to bring your hand out in front where it needs to be. I think more than a little mobility was lost (probably in the name of tighter fitment) over the years.
Actually, shooting jackets (for high-power shooting, at least) tend to fit pretty tight. The idea is that they help hold your body more rigid, giving you better stability when shooting at longer ranges (200, 300, and 600 yards). While I agree that sport coats aren't fit the same way, the lack of mobility is pretty common.
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#103Clearly one of the big no-nos is mixing formal and casual. Fedora wearers without a suit, also the weird college-student fad of wearing a waistcoat ("vest") with casual clothing, much ridiculed. But on the other hand, wooly hats and baseball caps are more casual than a lot of general leisure and business clothing. We have the flat cap, but here in England that seems like an affectation unless you're from particular places where it's traditional. What alternatives are there?
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#104Sometimes I wear a cowboy hat for fun, but they are terrible in any condition. Outside they blow away because of the wide brim. If you forget to take it off before getting in a car it will either catch on the door frame, or the headrest will knock it off your head. If you wear it inside the brim will knock into something and make you look like a doof.
Easiest way to fix this is to fit the hat to your head like they used to do in the way back whens. This technique works for felt hats and straw hats. When your hat is new it is unlikely to fit your head well since head shapes differ so widely. A old cowboy method of fitting the hat to the head will work perfectly every time. Wet the hat and the sweat band and put it on your head until the band has shaped to fit your head with no pressure points so that it contacts all the way around your head. Then just wear it until it dries. It will always fit your head perfectly and will not blow off in the wind. You can do the same thing with ill-fitting boots. Just get them wet, slip them on and walk around wearing them till they dry. They will fit your feet like a glove.
I'm with you on the headrest thing. That's the main reason I no longer wear a hat when I drive. You have to remove the headrest for that to be practical. Years ago before headrests in pickups were a thing I wore a hat everywhere. For a while I got around it by rolling the back of the brim up so it curled enough to fit with a headrest but that defeats the purpose of the brim.
I can see 8-9 cowboy hats right now from where I'm sitting. They each fit a specific person in my family. That's one of the reasons behind it being really bad form for someone to grab your hat and shove it on their head, the hat is fit for an individual and though it may look nice on them, it won't fit - plus it's disrespectful to mess with a man's hat.
Way back in my own way back whens, I boarded my horse with an old cowboy who told stories of his younger days rodeoing and riding. At one time he held the calf-roping record time he set at Madison Square Garden. Him and some of his cowboy friends, his sidekicks, were wranglers in the 40's and 50's for movie studios in California. He had worked with Tom Mix, Gene Autry, and others and taught the lead character from Rawhide (can't remember his name) to mount and ride a horse since he had never been on one when he got the part. He wrangled their herd for that old show. Anyway, getting long here but he told me a story one time about one of the stars he had worked with who couldn't or wouldn't wear a hat, saying that he had a head too much like a nickle watermelon and a hat just wouldn't stay on it.
I was reminded of that by your comment about losing your hat in the wind. Hope this helps someone.
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There are chemical and physical active ingredients used in sunscreens, with many sunscreens containing a little of each. The physical components tend to work immediately as they block UV frequencies as you mentioned. The chemical components apparently need to be absorbed into the skin. This is a fairly succinct overview: https://blog.reneerouleau.com/chemical-vs-physical-sunscreen...
As a chemist I squinted at “need to be absorbed to be effective”. The molecules in sunscreen either block or absorb UV. Nothing gets “absorbed into” the skin. It just sits on top (the skin is an amazing barrier). The fact the molecule can absorb UV doesn’t change if it’s sitting in a tube or on top of your skin.
Here's another excerpt from a different source:
> Chemical sunscreens use up to a dozen ingredients that, when applied, are absorbed in the top layer of skin. They react with the skin to absorb UV rays and convert them into energy before they can harm the skin.
> Chemical sunscreens aren’t as thick as physical sunscreens, so they are often used in sunscreens specifically made for the face as well as those found in spray bottles. Since chemical sunscreens need to be absorbed into the skin, they must be applied at least 20 to 30 minutes before heading outdoors.
> Physical sunscreens, sometimes called “natural” sunscreens, include two ingredients: zinc oxide and titanium dioxide. Together, these ingredients sit on top of the skin and deflect or reflect the sun’s rays. Think of physical sunscreens like a shield, while chemical sunscreens are absorbed into the skin. Both ingredients work well to protect from UVA and UVB (broad spectrum) rays. Since physical sunscreens are thicker, they can leave a white cast on the skin.
https://www.pennmedicine.org/cancer/about/focus-on-cancer/20...
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I hope we don’t lose the blazer and sport coat, at least. They’re great. Like a purse for men, but even better than that because you wear them. Unlike winter coats or hoodies they’re not shlubby-looking and you can wear (appropriate cloth & weight) ones in almost any weather. I’m OK with the suit going but damn, without those there’s not much left for guys to wear that’s not athletic wear of some kind or another (and…
Shit, man, I'm just waiting for the Romper to cross over from women's fashion. Loose-fitting, linen combination shorts / tank? Yes, please! I'd even settle for denim if we must play at working on cars for women to accept it as fashionable. Maybe then I can finally have my cargo pockets back!
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#107My half-baked theory has been that nobody wears hats on TV because you wouldn't be able to see their faces as well, and people started imitating that.
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I find that putting on a big floppy hat is quicker and easier than applying sunscreen to my face. So I wear one during the summer when I'm outside. I keep an additional one at work for summertime lunch. The only obstacle is, when I'm outside, I'm often wearing a bike helmet.
> I find that putting on a big floppy hat is quicker and easier than applying sunscreen to my face. So I wear one during the summer when I'm outside. I keep an additional one at work for summertime lunch. The awkward thing is it to me years to learn how to do this. My family didn't wear hats, and no one I knew wore hats: the cultural knowledge/practice was totally lost. From my perspective, hats are lost advanced tec…
For me, I already had an "outdoors" vibe for the clothes that I wear, and it's still possible to find hats in that market space. Check out REI, LLBean, Campmor, Sierra Trading Post, are ones that come to mind just because I remember getting their catalogs at sometime or other. One of my sun hats came from Target too.
Re: Cars and hygiene killed the middle-class hat
#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
I hope we don’t lose the blazer and sport coat, at least. They’re great. Like a purse for men, but even better than that because you wear them. Unlike winter coats or hoodies they’re not shlubby-looking and you can wear (appropriate cloth & weight) ones in almost any weather. I’m OK with the suit going but damn, without those there’s not much left for guys to wear that’s not athletic wear of some kind or another (and…
> there’s not much left for guys to wear that’s not athletic wear of some kind or another (and hell, sport coats kinda are anyway) Sport coats are athletic wear? To me, a sport coat is the same thing as a suit jacket, with the only difference being that a sport coat isn't the same color as your pants. It will literally become a suit jacket if you put on matching pants. For example, a sport coat, very much unlike athl…