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Cars and hygiene killed the middle-class hat

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Re: Cars and hygiene killed the middle-class hat

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Frequently wear a baseball cap (that counts as a hat? Right?) on weekends thinning hair, pale skin and a subtropical climate pretty much mandate it - and the extra shade certainly improves the efficiency of my sunglasses!

A lot of people use umbrellas here for the same purpose, but with dense crowds, overhead obsticles and tying up a hand... I'd rather wear some form of hat while out and about!

Re: Cars and hygiene killed the middle-class hat

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Sometimes I wear a cowboy hat for fun, but they are terrible in any condition. Outside they blow away because of the wide brim. If you forget to take it off before getting in a car it will either catch on the door frame, or the headrest will knock it off your head. If you wear it inside the brim will knock into something and make you look like a doof.

Re: Cars and hygiene killed the middle-class hat

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I've been wearing a hat outdoors for about 10 years now, since the doc carved pieces of flesh out of my forehead. It was annoying at first, but I grew to like it. It keeps the sunburn away. I was surprised how pleasant it made walking in the rain. It doesn't affect my hairstyle because my hair departed long ago. I do get ridiculed for it now and then, but one advantage of getting older is one stops caring about that,…

> I do get ridiculed for it now and then

I have similar experiences with dyeing my hair in bright colours as a guy; most people react neutrally or positively, others ... not so much.

There seems to be something of a cultural difference here too; in Ireland, New Zealand, and Indonesia I don't get too much grief from it, in the Netherlands ... meh. One guy (random stranger) even went so far as to shout "hey homo!" :-/ One of the aspects of my country I'm not especially impressed with.

Overall, it's not a bad people filter. If you're the kind of person who would ridicule someone over hair colour or wearing a hat then you're probably not the kind of person I want to interact with if I have the choice. I'd rather know sooner than later.

Re: Cars and hygiene killed the middle-class hat

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I've been wearing a hat outdoors for about 10 years now, since the doc carved pieces of flesh out of my forehead. It was annoying at first, but I grew to like it. It keeps the sunburn away. I was surprised how pleasant it made walking in the rain. It doesn't affect my hairstyle because my hair departed long ago. I do get ridiculed for it now and then, but one advantage of getting older is one stops caring about that,…

I find that putting on a big floppy hat is quicker and easier than applying sunscreen to my face. So I wear one during the summer when I'm outside. I keep an additional one at work for summertime lunch. The only obstacle is, when I'm outside, I'm often wearing a bike helmet.

Additionally, it looks like there may be harmful side-effects from sunscreen. It's probably still better than getting a sunburn, but it's not harm-free either. All other things being equal, a big floppy hat is proabbly better for your health.

The science isn't 100% clear on this as I know; and different sunblocks use different ingredients. This seems a reasonably good/quick overview: https://www.ewg.org/sunscreen/report/the-trouble-with-sunscr...

Re: Cars and hygiene killed the middle-class hat

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As a Jewish man, I come from a long-line of hat-wearers. And I get a lot of complements from people on my hats when I'm out and about. Men are curious about them, as if the want to wear them, but fear looking silly.

Some of the orthodox hats are just so cool. Black. Rakish. Almost streamlined.

Re: Cars and hygiene killed the middle-class hat

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Wait, Walter, what is this "wait 20 mins before it becomes effective"? Did I miss something? Aren't the standard ingredients simply opaque to UV frequencies right out of the bottle/tube?

The standard Coppertone sunscreen says Directions: Apply liberally 15 minutes before sun exposure. Reapply: after 80 minutes of swimming or sweating; immediately after towel drying; at least every 2 hours I’ve always heard this as time to absorb to become waterproof, but I’m not sure if it’s actual skin absorption or the liquid used to convey the sun blocking compounds to dry or evaporate. Either way, apply and then…

I always (mis?)interpreted that as a way to get you to finish putting it on before you went into the sun, so you wouldn't get burned while possibly putting it on (a group of kids, for ex) too slowly while standing in the mid-day sun.

Re: Cars and hygiene killed the middle-class hat

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I find that putting on a big floppy hat is quicker and easier than applying sunscreen to my face. So I wear one during the summer when I'm outside. I keep an additional one at work for summertime lunch. The only obstacle is, when I'm outside, I'm often wearing a bike helmet.

> quicker and easier than applying sunscreen to my face. Yup. It's not greasy, don't have to worry about missing a spot, don't have to wait the 20 minutes before it becomes effective, don't have to reapply it after a few hours, it doesn't expire, it doesn't smell like rotten coconuts, and it's very, very effective.

Right, and using sunscreen on my partially bald head would be icky.

Re: Cars and hygiene killed the middle-class hat

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I've been wearing a hat outdoors for about 10 years now, since the doc carved pieces of flesh out of my forehead. It was annoying at first, but I grew to like it. It keeps the sunburn away. I was surprised how pleasant it made walking in the rain. It doesn't affect my hairstyle because my hair departed long ago. I do get ridiculed for it now and then, but one advantage of getting older is one stops caring about that,…

Same. Had a SCC cut out where my hair is thinning above my forehead back in March, but the lockdown put a hold on finding and trying out a nice felt hat - still a month off having to go back into the office.

I wonder if there's a noticable correlation between head cancers and the end of traditional hat wearing?

Re: Cars and hygiene killed the middle-class hat

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find that putting on a big floppy hat is quicker and easier than applying sunscreen to my face. So I wear one during the summer when I'm outside. I keep an additional one at work for summertime lunch. The only obstacle is, when I'm outside, I'm often wearing a bike helmet.

> quicker and easier than applying sunscreen to my face. Yup. It's not greasy, don't have to worry about missing a spot, don't have to wait the 20 minutes before it becomes effective, don't have to reapply it after a few hours, it doesn't expire, it doesn't smell like rotten coconuts, and it's very, very effective.

I started wearing a hat coupled with a UV-screening swim shirt when going to the beach. It may look dorky (hell it does look dorky) but the benefits of not having to apply sticky goo all over me are worth it.
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